Originally Posted by JackIsBack
I stay away from this thread - because just reading the tyrannical views on this thread makes me sick... and just because a majority of people believe it or want it, that doesn't make it right. Throughout history you can find cases where the majority has oppressed the minority and it has lead to great atrocities.
I only read a few of the past points, but someone said it right, where do we draw the line to helping our fellow citizens.
This is disease has been overblown at every turn by the governments of the world, together with the media, they have created fear and panic where none should exist. We are dehumanizing our fellow citizens and I think it should stop. Fear is a powerful emotion and you can convince all sorts of normally good people to do all manner of evils by wielding it.
Here is a good question, what happens if we find out the the vaccines are doing more harm than good? Should we then reverse our punishment regiment and turn it onto the vaccinated instead.
You see, the mRNA vaccine is not really a vaccine in the historical use of the term, it's a new technology that hijacks the patients cells at the injection site (although this is the intention, it's not always the outcome) and makes them create one protein (the spike protein) that is associated with the COVID19 virus... one out of about 28 or 29 proteins that can be used by your immune system to recognize the COVID19 virus and therefore create an immune response and produce antibodies that defend against the virus. The problem is that by only aiming the immune response to one of the proteins, you create a huge incentive (natural selection) for the virus to mutate that one protein, and guess what, that's exactly what we see happening in the variants (like the delta variant) that are spreading out of control around the world. That's called science... and by demeaning people like me that are trying to promote healthy skepticism and get real improvements in future medicines and vaccines, you are the problem and not the solution - this current vaccine has real side effects and real problems, and no amount of naming calling towards us is going to change that fact - It won't make you safer, it will do exactly the opposite.
There was a time, and not that long ago, when residential schools were popular and the majority of people support them, they were a HUGE mistake and the vaccine passports will eventually go down in history as a terrible idea along these same lines. If the passports came into effect today - currently I would be given a passport, or passing grade or however they work... but what about tomorrow? They can simply say that mine in invalid tomorrow because some other requirement is necessary, like a second booster (this is already the suggestion by the CDC - a third shot).... or maybe the flu shot is required. What happens if they don't want you travelling more than a certain distance from you home - they can add that to the requirements. The passports will dwarf into a social credit score, a score on how good a person you are... I don't drink or smoke, should I judge you on my expectations and push your score lower because you choose to do so. How ridiculous right? But isn't the precisely what you want to do because someone is not vaccinated. But... it will only be used for this one purpose... right, so I'm being ridiculous again... since when have you known a government to not expand a program, to not expand control - I can't think of one area. Go back through history.... most great atrocities have been committed by governments against their very people... Mao's China, Stalin in the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Nazi Germany.... but they weren't democratic you say.... Hitler was elected, more recently Chávez in Venezuela was also elected. But it could never happen here, that’s what Venezuelans thought too, in fact, it so easy to get the majority to turn against a minority group, it’s been done throughout history with ease.
People here will claim they are for free speech and then demand that I be censored because they simply disagree with me… but isn’t that exactly what free speech is? It’s not free speech if the only speech you allow is ones you agree with. Same with science…. It only takes one scientist, one experiment to prove a theory wrong - and it doesn’t matter how many scientist agree or agreed with it - it’s now wrong. Once the majority of people, scientist’s too, thought the earth was the centre of the universe - and they were WRONG. We may have thought or hoped that the mRNA vaccines would work for this COVID virus, I know I did, I know I got vaccinated, but more and more evidence is proving my original hope and thoughts to be WRONG. It doesn’t matter again if you believe me, it doesn’t matter if you ban or censor me, it doesn’t matter if the media tries to convince you otherwise, it doesn’t matter if Canada pushes these vaccines on the mass population, and it doesn’t matter if they mandate them... the shortcomings in these vaccines will remain until we fix them. I wonder, if we removed the liability exemption from these vaccine producers, governments, and doctors, if we released an unbiased media and scientific community to truly study them, if we opened up our minds to the truth - whatever it be…. If we truly would be having this conversation to day…. If we simply shined some light on this process and let the chips fall where they may. I think everyone is going to be shocked in short order of what has been going on here, the truth is going to come to light.
We are on a very bad path.... and I'm sickened by it and quite frankly… I’m sickened by many posts on here. What was that excuse again used at the Nuremberg trial - “I was just following orders”. Like in the French revolution, how long will it take before you’re on the wrong side and the guillotine is used against all those cheering the last poor chap who lost his head. Are we to ask before we help someone, have you been vaccinated? And that truly will be a sad day when it come, and by what I read on here, it could come very soon indeed.
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