[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Did you miss where Eichel doesn't play with *every* player on the team? One guy doesn't decide if a team is a contender or not. Neither does one line.

Again, no specifics about Eichel, just "the team got worse!" as though that's a measure of a player.

Well, when you say that Eichel makes players around him better, that extends to the whole team, because when you're at that supposed elite level your play lifts everyone's play. Crosby does it. McDavid does it. All of the elite players have done it. When you're elite, you carry your team and the team gets better because of it. Hence the argument that Eichel is not elite. If Eichel were elite, he would have Buffalo trending better, not worse, right? Seems that's brush we paint our players and team with, so why is it different for guy that has failed miserably in Buffalo?

IDK man if you watch every Buffalo game, have at it. You also watch every Ottawa game, and Florida game, and watch Arizona whenever you can. Whenever a team or player comes up, you've watched all the games. It's impressive, so kudos to you I guess.

I never said I watched every Buffalo game. You did. I never said I watched every game of any team. You did. That's your attempted dodge to discredit. Pretty transparent and something you like to do.

I just think it's weird that Eichel hasn't played since early March, and in that time you've gone from "would trade Tkachuk, Monahan, Hanifin, and a 1st for Eichel and Risto" or "Tkachuk, Lindholm, Hanifin, and a 1st for Eichel and Reinhart" to "EICHEL BAD DO NOT WANT! EVERYONE IS OBSESSED!" Like, what Buffalo games have you been watching the last two months? Clearly, they changed your mind.

Don't equate suggested trades to counter those made by others as my endorsement of going after a player, which is exactly what you're doing. The post you're referring to says just that.

"I can't see Buffalo including a salary dump in the deal. That would hurt the value they are going to get out of Eichel. Why would they limit the return they are likely to get out of this. Frankly, a deal I could see happening would be a 1st line center, a 1st line winger, a top four defenseman, and a pick or two for Eichel and another asset with value. So for the Flames I would think the deal would be Monahan, Lindholm, Hanifin, 2022 1st rounder ($16.175) for Eichel and Ristolanen ($15.4M). I think that is a very high price to pay for the Flames and one they should think long and hard on. That's a tough package for other teams to match IMO and would really make the Sabres better."

See, never endorsed the trade and said the Flames should think long and hard about a trade like that. And that was before we found out about his neck injury. Now, you're a smart kid, but you should stop misrepresenting what people say the way you are. It only looks bad on you when you do stuff like that.

To answer your loaded question, wWhat has changed that makes Eichel less and less attractive? I dunno? A neck requiring surgery? And then demanding surgery that has never been done on an NHL player? That seems pretty relevant don't you think? Or do you regularly buy stuff that is need of repair and pay way over market value for that product? I would hope not, because I think you're a smart kid, and that's a real stupid thing to do.