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Originally Posted by nik-

Gaudreau is definitely not worth 8.5

Incredibly skilled, contributes a lot obviously, but is incapable of carrying a team. It's not his fault, he's just not that player and he's been forced to try to do it because this team is flawed.

One player can't carry a team in hockey.

Howe couldn't do it
Richard couldn't do it
Orr couldn't do it
Gretzky couldn't do it
Lemieux couldn't do it
Crosby couldn't do it
McDavid isn't doing it

You need a team.

Gaudreau doesn't even have the supporting cast that those players above had or have. Everyone of those guys above had or have at least one hall of fame teammate. Gaudreau hasn't had any and Jagr doesn't count.