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Old 04-29-2021, 08:03 AM   #276
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
The fanbase turned on Gaudreau just as fast and he's accomplished a lot more than Tkachuk. It seems like too many fans have Tkachuk on a pedestal but he's no more special than other players. Remember he's the one that wanted the bridge contract to get to free agency quicker. Hard to give a guy the captaincy when his main focus appears to be cashing in at free agency as soon as possible.

The Flames have been mediocre for decades and since Treliving has taken over have had one season where they were a comfortable playoff team. The rest of the time they have been a fringe team and getting worse year after year. I don't know about you but I would gladly take a few painful seasons of rebuild over the current painful seasons of mediocrity. Outside of Peters first season, the team hasn't been fun to watch in pretty well every season post-Hartley. I'm not sure why any fan would want to sign on for a continuation of what we have seen this season and make no mistake this team may not be rebuilding but they are no better than a rebuilding Ottawa team so if the team is going to be bad they may as well do things right.
I don’t agree this fanbase turned on Gaudreau more quickly than Tkachuk. The trade Johnny stuff started last season after the 99pt year and it is due to his play suffering and his contract.

I think you are more of an Eric Francis than an Erick Estrada with your Tkachuk contract take. Looking at that offseason those RFA’s signed 2 types of deals. Insane money and term or bridge with high QO. Marner, Rantanen, Aho were examples of guys that signed for 5+ years taking them to UFA at a price between 8.5-10.7M. The next group of guys like Tkachuk, Point, Boeser, Meier all took the short term bridge with high qualifying offer. All of this was before the flat cap with thoughts a new TV deal would push the cap even higher.

I don’t think there is a single Flames fan who wants to come back with the same group. I don’t think an organization is going to look at one bad year in a Covid season and decide they need to start all over again. I think some major changes are on the horizon but I just do not see the team coming out and sending a letter like the Hawks or Rangers to their fans saying they are rebuilding. Another year like this season and I think it does happen but they won’t go down that direction until they see how this team does when things are normal.
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