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Old 11-04-2020, 11:50 AM   #1877
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Originally Posted by Firebot View Post
Democrats definitely did attempt both, that's why we are here.

They are that out of touch with the American people that even with the worst president in history can still get down to where we are doing recounts to determine the presidency.
I agree that they attempted to court both those votes, but not that they actually moved one way or the other in terms of the party itself.

They were just scattered and disingenuine about enough issues that enough people didn't buy in. I don't think a half-hearted plea to progressives cost them moderate/Republican votes as much as I think it cost them progressive votes.
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