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Old 08-19-2020, 04:10 PM   #2562
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That's pretty short sighted, and for such a small group with little influence, leaves them open to getting crushed if they try bull#### like this. If they want to get more progressive issues on the agenda, they need to work the system. Primary challenges are just bad ideas and indicative of a party that is not progressive and demands loyalty to a single perspective.
How is it short-sighted? They've picked up a number of wins so far and the progressives who have been elected in that manner are some of the most popular members of congress among you Democrats. Waiting to make changes within the system while the overton window continues to shift right is a fool's errand.

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I love Bernie Bros. Always willing to hold their breath until they are blue in the face or until someone gives them what they want. But they are always the first to bitch and complain after throwing their vote away and going against their own interests. And don't give me any #### about Biden not representing your values/interests and then going and voting Libertarian. How can anyone claim to be a "progressive" then leap three or four positions to the right in the political spectrum? Craziness amplified.
Do you honestly think I'm speaking from a first-person perspective? Like I thought it was pretty freaking obvious that I'm speaking about hypothetical voters who will make that jump as opposed to myself.

There are plenty of Bernie supporters who (much like Trump supporters do) see Bernie as an outsider who can upset the applecart a bit. They really don't have a political ideology beyond that, and that's why they usually end up staying home or voting third party. I'd imagine this applies to many Yang supporters, too.
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