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Old 07-30-2020, 07:32 AM   #2180
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Neither is likely interested in trading for Gaudreau in their current state, at least not in exchange for their picks. He's much more likely to be traded to a contender with a bit of cap room looking for an upgrade on 1LW, a team in "win now" mode that thinks he can put them over the top, even if it is at the expense of a promising prospect. So which contenders have a highly-rated centre prospect?

Probably the dream trade for the Flames would be with their 2020 2nd to Washington (which doesn't have its own 2nd this year) for Connor McMichael and Tom Wilson.

Why would the Flames do this? Well, for a middling team with no likely 1C or 2C in the pipeline, this would give them a potential top 6 centre, as well as a decent right-shot top 6 RW who's signed up until the Flames' next likely window to contend (around 2022-2023, at the prime of Tkachuk, Valimaki, Andersson, Pelletier, Hanifin, and Kylington's careers, with maybe Wolf or Parsons taking over in net). The top 9 would look something like Tkachuk-Monahan-Lindholm, Pelletier-McMichael-Wilson, and Dube-Backlund-Mangiapane.

Why would the Caps to this? Their window to win is now. Ovechkin is nearing the end of his contract, and his production is declining a bit. With his seeing-eye pinpoint passes, Gaudreau would be the best set-up man Ovy has ever had. With Gaudreau, a left-hand shot, playing RW and setting up Ovechkin's deadly right-hand shot on the LW, it wouldn't surprise me if Ovy got 60-70 goals and Gaudreau got 120 points. Sign Ovy for one more season, and you have two seasons as possibly the team with the best chance to win the Cup. Their top 6 would be Ovechkin-Kuznetsov-Gaudreau and Vrana-Backstrom-Oshie (scary!). They may give up more than they get back in trading McMichael at the beginning of his career, but if they win two Stanley Cups in the process, it will have been worth it (think back to the Niewendyk for Iginla trade). And they may have an above-average shot at re-signing Gaudreau.

With Wilson's cap hit being a bit less than Gaudreau's, the Flames could eat 25% of Gaudreau's salary to balance the cap. And how fun would it be to watch a Connor McMichael/Connor McDavid rivalry in the BOA?

One other intriguing possibility would be to again bundle Gaudreau with a 2nd to Colorado for Burakovsky and Alex Newhook. For the Flames, this would give them a top 6 LW to take 2nd line duties (RFA for UFA, but not at quite the same skill level, especially given that Burakovsky has put up fewer points in spite of playing with MacKinnon, and RFA trade and sign deals seem to be Treliving's forte) and a 1C/2C prospect. Not to mention that it would add to Calgary's own local Team Sweden. Top 6 would be Tkachuk-Monahan-Lindholm and Burakovsky-Newhook-Pelletier. For the Avs, this would give them an elite playmaker who would likely be even better than he is on the Flames given how much space Mackinnon's speed would create for him to work in. I can see Gaudreau easily putting up 120+ points on a line with MacKinnon and Rantanen, and boosting both of his linemates' goal totals significantly, to the point that the line would be virtually unstoppable for the next two years. I see this scenario as less likely because the Avs are more in a "win-anytime" mode, and Gaudreau may be less likely to re-sign there, but it may be hard to turn down the prospect of two years of being the Stanley Cup favourites.

Of course, Johnny's dream trade would be to the Flyers, probably for Morgan Frost. In this scenario, the Flyers would have to add. Maybe Konecky to balance the cap hit? From the Flyers' perspective, they would likely be highly confident that they could re-sign Gaudreau for a reasonable cap hit, and they are in "win-now" territory.
I disagree with most of this post.

Buffalo absolutely will have interest in probably every top player that is available this offseason. I read an article where their best reporter suggests at least 50% chance they trade that pick.

New Jersey would love to add an elite player to either Hughes or Hischier’s line. They have 3 1st round picks and a ton of cap space and want to move forward not continue a long rebuild.

Why are you adding a 2nd to Johnny for both the Colorado and Washington deals? Neither get me overly excited with Johnny by himself let alone the Flames trading away their 2nd for the 4th straight year.

Frost and Konecny is a dream trade that I can’t see the Flyers making. I do think in a one for one trade for Konecny the Flames would lose as it would be a classic sell low for the Flames and a sell high for the Flyers so I would like there to be a plus from Philly. I can see the Flyers shutting that down right away so that’s a reason I don’t see them as a good trade partner.


I am pretty firm in my belief that if Johnny is traded it will be for a futures based package that opens up cap space for Calgary to sign Hall while adding some key pieces that are 1-2 years away from making a significant impact on the club.
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