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Originally Posted by Acey
Yeah but it wouldn't have gotten to this point if people had not been scrolling back to 2011 try to find stuff to cancel her over. I dunno, I just feel like Jenna Marbles putting on spray tan and (rightfully) making fun of Nicki Minaj is so far down the list of things that could ever conceivably make me angry, though I understand that I don't get to tell other black people what offends them.
Then I wake up and see The Dixie Chicks are now "The Chicks". Good lord. They had to preemptively do that to not get cancelled. My cousin has been a Dixie Chicks fan for as long as I can remember, has been to many of their shows, and now she's erased 10 years of her fandom to jump on Facebook this morning saying how their name was always unacceptable and offensive.
I just hate everything right now.
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I agree that some of the conversation has deteriorated into a combination of virtue signaling and "cancel" culture. And I certainly agree that those things can get in the way of considering the actual intent behind actions. It's pretty easy for an organization to post some virtuous words and then do nothing to actually fix their contribution to the issue. Or, on the flip side, for people to railroad someone for a questionable past action that didn't really have racist intent. In those instances, I think it's much better to educate rather than "cancel" the person.
However, I think there's still good conversation occurring. For instance, this post from earlier in the thread:
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The first girl I really liked in high school, her dad ended up sitting me down to tell me I couldn't see the daughter anymore because mom wasn't comfortable with it. He was as nice as he could possibly be about it and I respect him for that, but boy that one really hurt. I cried for a long time. That was 2006... not even that long ago. That's the only time in my life where there were thoughts in my head that I didn't want to be black anymore.
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For whatever reason, this has stuck with me - I felt so bad for younger Acey. Part of it is probably because my wife and I just had a daughter (now 8 months old) and this made me stop and think. We had played some of the "what if" games (what if she's gay or trans - how would we react to show that we love and support her). But your post put the question in my mind of "how would I react if our daughter brings home someone from another race?" And, boy, do I ever not want to make some kid feel the way you did, or even just a bit uncomfortable (at least not beyond the normal nerves of meeting your girlfriend's dad).
Similarly, I watched the Chappelle video and that also really stuck with me.
This type of sharing perspectives and experiences is a good thing. It's made people like me think a bit deeper about these issues and our own contributions to them. I hope there's more of that going forward and less of the superficial statements/sniping.