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Old 06-21-2020, 01:16 PM   #213
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I think the quality gap between Hall and Gaudreau is debatable, but moreover, I think it is virtually certain that Hall's UFA contract that he signs this summer will be at a lower cap hit than that which Gaudreau signs in two years, just by virtue of inflation. So, in addition to the assets acquired in any Gaudreau trade—which would be considerable, and should absolutely not be ignored in this conversation—his replacement on the top line will also come in at a lower cost.
Johnny is younger, more productive and much less injury prone than Hall. Id rather pay Johnny 10M than Hall 9M.


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This is patented nonsense. Gaudreau and Monahan have played together for so long and so consistently that it is extremely difficult to distinguish between what one does to assist the other. But without any doubt, BOTH PLAYERS BENEFIT TREMENDOUSLY FROM LINING UP WITH THE OTHER. Contrary to your suggestion, while there is scant evidence, there is some evidence to see how each player performs in the absence of the other, and Monahan has fared just fine—Gaudreau, less so. Furthermore, while Monahan's 2019 playoff performance was not good, he has been among the Flames's top playoff performing forwards in previous years, and without much of a contribution from Gaudreau.
Really? Because looking up the numbers and advanced stats I don't see Monahan producing more when away from Johnny. In fact Im seeing the total opposite. Maybe Im wrong and you can show me these stats, because with a quick look Monahans numbers look bad without Gaudreau on the ice with him. Also finding multiple articles stating those facts.

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I actually think a good case could be made that Monahan would become a better player without Gaudreau to constantly defer to on his line. It is entirely possible that moving on from Gaudreau becomes the best thing to happen to Monahan's own career.
You're suggesting Monahan is suddenly going to become a driver of offense without Johnny? I just don't see it. Monahans biggest strength by far is his ability to get a heavy accurate shot off quickly and is afforded that often because of the playmaking and vision of Gaudreau, not to mention the chemistry they have due to the amount of time they have spent together on the ice. I think you have to agree not many guys in the league have the playmaking ability of Johnny.

I know you're a huge Monahan fan but if I'm serious about moving Gaudreau then why not consider making the bigger trade and include both of them? I just have the feeling that Monahan will suffer greatly without Johnny on his wing. Monahan is pretty much useless when he isn't scoring goals.
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