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Originally Posted by transplant99
Im not sure, regardless of his orangeness's wishes, that the military would be able to deploy anywhere except for that area around the white house.
Requests would have to come from Governors, which has never happened except for specific areas and usually around a natural disaster. The King riots was another one but that is pretty self explanatory.
Yesterday was a whole lot of bluster and tough talk that he really has no way of implementing.
Though i suppose he could get some Gov.'s like Haley on board, but even at that, it would only be a few states.
Im really not sure what the answer is but the looting and fires have to stop. They are really only hurting the most vulnerable in many instances.
The violence either way has to stop from both sides as well.
Police have to get a grip on their own, no question. Clearly we are starting to see at least the smallest shift that way from leadership in some areas. It may be but a small step in a marathon journey, but it all starts somewhere.
The criminals who are shooting at and running over cops for no reason other than they are wearing a uniform...has to stop. Those under those uniforms are mothers and fathers and sons and daughters just like all those who have been brutalized by the bad cops are. Same with the NG who are citizens of the very state they have been called to service in.
My worry is that niether moves quick enough to satisfy the other.....the guns come out...and we see just how dark it gets. In fact I think we are there now or will be in the next couple days.
Its all very sad but this is how revolutions often begin, and i dont think its a stretch to suggest that is where this is all headed one way or another. Im just not sure anyone will be satisfied on the other side of it though.
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Someone can correct me, but I believe that the President can send in troops without state approval under the Insurrection act, which was designed as a except for clause in Posse Comitatus. Its been used several times in modern history. What gets this around Congress blocking it, is that it's almost like its got pre-approval without the need to notify or get Congress's approval.
From my understanding what really gets this around Posse, is that the military wouldn't go in to enforce civilian law, but is there to aid civilian authority while not acting as a police force.
I don't want the military to go in anywhere, because frankly their approach to ending the state of riot would be extreme.
The only way that this could effect is if an office objects to an order as being a illegal order. If the President declared marshal law and used the Insurrection act, I don't think that a soldier or officer could refuse that order legally. However the add on would be if the Military was deployed under the insurrection act, and either the president or a superior officer order the wholesale slaughter of civilians, that would be an illegal order equaling murder.