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Old 02-19-2020, 10:26 PM   #183
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina View Post
Sutter was a good GM for one move only - getting Kipper. Kipper was the #1 reason why the Flames made their run, and won the division a season later. He played as well as a goalie can for those 2 years.
Sutter was an elite coach and not a good GM.
He was a terrible drafter, and made similar moves that people criticize Tree for - trading away picks for roster players. (2nd for Bourque, 3rd for Staios, etc)
He did poorly on a lot of his deals. Some get a lot of attention but others are forgotten more. But among his bad deals you have the Phaneuf trade, Jokinen to NYR, Primeau+2nd for Colin Stuart and Anton Stralman (who he then traded for a pick). Some people hate the Okotoker for Stuart deal too, but at least I get why that one was made. He had some good ones too (getting Cammy, trading for Conroy twice) but overall he was more bad than good with trades.

Darryl Sutter was not a good GM.
It's not just Kipper. What Darryl did the rest of 2004 is why the Flames went on the run they did. Nilsson, Nieminen and Simon were incredible adds.

No I wouldn't hire Sutter to be my GM. Ever.

But it's about winning folks. He was responsible for more success than any other Flames GM save some guy some named Cliff.
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