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Originally Posted by Textcritic
And I have answered this by agreeing that the Flames definitely need to improve offensively. But I take issue with the insinuation that the team is presently a bottom-five scoring team.
Yeah, this clearly went right over your head—your condescension helps to demonstrate as much. The point is to show a considerable variation in offence which strongly suggests that a team consisting of essentially the same personnel finishing a full ten places below their four-year scoring average is probably an outlier.
I am not interesting in anything more than how we measure the Flames's offensive potential moving forward, which includes other teams's problems. I continue to maintain that the Flames are better than their scoring returns from this past season.
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Yeah, you've maintained this for a long time. You thought last year was a down year too, no reason why the team couldn't bounce back. In fact, we talked about the Flames lack of offense in June of last year as well. At the time, you maintained the depth of the roster was it's strength...
Last year they were in the bottom third in league in 5-5 scoring. That happened again this year, right? Maybe that trend has more relevance on what the team can do offensively than something that happened 4 years ago with a team that had Jiri Hudler on it?
Why don't we ever compare the Flames to say, good teams in the league and what those teams were doing and how the Flames could get there? Are you seriously suggesting 16th in the league in scoring over the last 4 years is supposed to be impressive? They made the playoffs in 2 of those 4 years including getting swept.
Why does their average over 4 years have more significance to you than what the roster did last year, especially considering Calgary's top players mostly had career years? Is it truly unfathomable to you that this roster produced less goals because it got less talented up front?
2 years ago the Oilers finished 2nd in the division, had 47 wins and went to the second round of the playoffs. I'm sure you'd have a favourable attitude to an oiler fan poster who claimed the oilers had no issues this year because their 2 year average pointed to last year as just an unfortunate down year.
Let's hold ourselves to some higher standards than blind, totemic optimism. Finishing 27th in the league in scoring this year is where the team finished. They were a bottom 3rd team offensively the whole year. Without a monahan and tkachuk injury maybe they finish 20th in league scoring instead of 27th, but 20th still ain't good enough and still means they need to add scoring.
This time last year:
Textcritic: The previous two seasons the Flames were a top-ten scoring team. I think last year was probably a down year for them offensively.