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Originally Posted by Reign of Fire
This kinda logic always cracks me. Just cause some fans on here show their displeasure with the way things are going, doesn't make them any less of Flames fans. Many didn't like the Glutuzan hire and look how well that turned out. It upsets us when the team is being run into the ground and some of us are sick of "wait and see approach". Some of the people here that always accept what the team does, remind me off Browns fans. Cheer on every move, then hate it when things don't go well...and rinse and repeat every offseason.
People say Treliving will learn from his mistakes, but there is no evidence to suggest that he has. I mean at this point there was no point in jumping the gun and hiring a guy that has a .500 record in the NHL. I am sorry but one WHL championship and a Gold in international competition don't instil confidence in the new hire. Short tournament vs. a long season is two different animals. Rival coaches in the NHL have more time to adjust to strategies. I would take a coach that has only missed the playoffs twice in 11 years vs. one that has only had a 5 point bump in points over four years any day.
But Treliving is shoving his philosophy down our throats again. He believes his is the only way, which to me suggests he's stubborn and refusing to correct his mistakes. Most people are waiting for him to make moves this offseason, I am wondering if he will trade another first round pick to get it done. Treliving should have lottery protected the first round pick and if that was the price, he should have walked away. But he was too focused on getting his player, that Snow bent him over. Whats stopping other GMs from taking advantage of him in the future, knowing he wants the player he targets.
But listening to Treliving talk about the process during his press conference, while already having his mind made up suggests that he zeros in on his targets and doesn't thoroughly evaluate everything. He reminds me off former Jacksonville Jaguars GM Gene Smith, who demonstrated similar characteristics of a hard-worker but used to zero in on his players as well. He wasted countless draft picks and had zero picks turn into Pro Bowlers. I fear I am seeing a similar pattern in Treliving, who seems to be stuck in his ways and doesn't want to change course.
I am for one am not happy with the hire. I hope I am wrong and I will happily eat crow, but there is nothing to suggest otherwise.
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This is exactly the kind of thing he's talking about though.
What do you mean there is nothing to suggest otherwise? What does that even mean? What could there be? And what other coaching candidate could provide contrary evidence? And why start off thinking you need evidence to prove they won't suck? Maybe you should have to provide evidence they do suck (which is impossible since it is the off season).
The entire "I'm going to assume we suck and trash everything that happens until proven otherwise" is such a terrible way to waste being a fan of a team. It's also a self fulfilling prophecy because about 25 teams in the league every year could fit that category. The list of reasons to say you knew all along they sucked is a long one and it makes it way too easy to be skeptical all the time and just say you knew better than everyone else from the start.
It's funny because there's been a lot of insults going around about people being blind followers of the team and trusting Tre and not expecting more from this franchise but it is always way, way easier to be a pessimist when it comes to sports teams. Just crapping on every move has a way higher percentage of being right because for most teams, most years they won't achieve their goals. That's the cop out. Being optimistic is the hard part.
So yeah, you'll have to excuse me if your posts, and the others like them, that obsessively focus on every bad move and exaggerate and use excessive hyperbole to describe every trade, signing, hire and draft pick an then use your own heavily biased viewpoint as "proof" that Tre sucks and we are destined for failure comes across as someone who would rather the team suck.