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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
...I think to be perfectly fair then, you can't compare Gulutzan to first time coaches. They all gained valuable experience from their first go-round as a head coach. Maybe compare their second opportunities and see how they did as compared to Gulutzan, and where Gulutzan falls in that respective range.
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That's true, but again this all needs to be balanced against the rosters that each coach oversaw in his second go-around.
The whole point of my posts #697 and 699 was to draw attention to precisely the absence of fairness in many posters' extremely premature and dismissive evaluations of Gulutzen in this thread. I am not arguing that Gulutzen is a good coach—he may not be. But the fact of the matter is
it is simply too early to know one way or the other.
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I do, however, agree with TKFlames in that it is rather irrelevant as he is the coach now, and the results need to start coming in for this organization. I don't think anyone wants 3+ years of him gaining enough experience to become a really good coach. He either is, or he isn't, and a team at the start of a rebuild where there is no pressure to win is perhaps the best situation for coaches to cut their teeth into the business, or become longer term associate coaches on winning teams. I for one would hope that IF Gulutzan really is a dud, that we aren't the team that is going to give up 'X' amount of seasons helping him learn his craft.
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Of course, this is what we all should hope for, if for no other reason because Gulutzen is going to be coaching the Flames for the duration of the full season. As I have shown by examples of other young NHL coaches who became highly successful, there is still plenty of reason to expect that the same can yet occur for Gulutzen and the Flames even in spite of the ugly start to the season. It is not something that I would expect to require 3+ years of on-the-job experience to get there, but it sure as hell will require more than 16 games in the space of five weeks. It doesn't behoove a single one of us to exercise a little more patience.