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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
By Talking Stick would be a good spot.
Also, one of the locations being considered was Bell Rd at the 101 (North Scottsdale). IMO, that would have been a far better location - right in the heart of the wealthiest part of the valley, without the annual turnover of a campus. Also, right off the 101, making it an easy commute from Mesa, and not too far from Tempe, Chandler, and Cave Creek.
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So bell at 101 no doubt has wealthy people around it, but is that where southern markets get their base? Being up there is almost as bad as being out in Glendale from an accessibility standpoint if you aren't in the rich part of town or staying at the fairmont. Talking stick has the same remoteness issue for a lot of people.
Right off of 101 sure, but where? They tired originally to build at Papago plaza, I forget all the reasons why that didn't work but I remember at the time reading they didn't know how to properly deal with the traffic.
Also, the Calgary model of dropping a rink in the middle of square miles of concrete is awful and hopefully over. They have to be urban and have an entertainment district around it. And the valley doesn't have a lot of great locations for that, it's so spread out. Tempe can manage crowds with good amenities, access to rail and several freeways makes sense to me. I can't think of a Scottsdale equivalent. It has rich people sure but that doesn't mean everything, and in southern markets seems to mean less don't you think?