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Old 11-11-2016, 06:28 PM   #1297
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Originally Posted by GirlySports View Post
i have another topic and maybe a stupid question.

why don't Americans have ID? All Canadians have ID (i think).
In many states that enacted voter ID laws, those states then went about closing the DMV locations in communities that were majority black. That meant that a black person who didn't drive, who took the bus to work, would have to go dramatically out of his or her way, assuming they had any way to get to a suburban DMV location in the first place (many cities have pathetic excuses for public transportation), they also would need to go during certain hours of the day/week (when they would often need to be at work instead, and often they're not working jobs that offer paid time off/personal days).



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No all people do not have ID. If you lose your ID and its $50 to replace it do you replace it? I do. Not all people would. Even free government ID's require applying for, going to pick up, and not losing.

In states with Photo ID laws voting among the poor drops. It drops by more than the total number of impersonation voter fraud cases ever.

So if you require ID to vote (I assume this is where your question was going) then you are preventing more legitimate votes in every election then you are preventing voter fraud. I believe the number is like 37 cases of possible voter fraud in the history of the US.
Beyond making it harder to get a basic state ID, which targets minorities (generally democratic leaning voters), they also limited what kind of ID was acceptable. For example in Texas, they tried to say that a gun registration was valid ID for voting purposes, but a student ID was not (younger voters more prone to vote democrat). The laws passed are often blatantly pointed at democratic voters.


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you have to have a bank account first. That must require ID? no?

how do blacks (to use a simple example) get paid in the US for the jobs they do without ID or a bank account. How does the US even tax these people? Sounds like chaos
There are check-cashing facilities in various stores--Walmarts, grocery stores, etc. They charge a fee, so these people who are already often making minimum wage or barely above it, are also now paying a fee just to get the money that they already made.

There are also corporations that started paying employees on reloadable debit cards, which was a disaster of a whole different kind https://thinkprogress.org/how-a-gian...348#.raukm1lil

Unless you're working for a tiny company that pays under the table, that company will go through a payroll company, and your taxes are automatically withdrawn from your check. You'll have your gross income listed, and then the actual check itself will be the amount you receive after taxes have been taken out.


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The FRC is terrible, but calling them an "officially designated hate group", and actually relying on a designation from the SPLC, which has completely ruined its own credibility in recent years, will just cause people to ignore the important part of that choice.

I think it represents Trump essentially delegating these decisions to others, probably including Pence.
Delegating decisions to others, including Pence, who have proven blatant disregard for the basic rights of the LGBT community, women, etc. This is concerning on so many levels.


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Wait people are mad Trump met with Obama and now thinks that maybe parts of Obamacare make sense?

Man that trump what a joke . 2 days in office and is already listening to other opinions and making pragmatic choices on policy
I'm not at all upset that Trump met with Obama and is hopefully accepting reason and logic. But there are going to be a whole lot of his voters that voted such based on him fulfilling all of these promises, including repealing the Affordable Care Act, who are going to be really ticked off when he goes back on that. He got all these gullible idiots out to vote for him, doing his best to upend the country in the meantime, and now he's going to change his mind? Couldn't he have done this a week ago so some of those supporters would've stayed home and we could've had someone in office who actually knows what she's doing?
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