10-18-2006, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FlamesFanInEdm
Well, if you want to tell me that everything that exists today came from nothing, with no planned purpose, and somehow ended up existing the way it does today, Im hardpressed to beleive you as well. I look at the complexity of the world surrounding us just like you do everyday and beleive that "to be honest in all likelihood the probability of this happening randomly, when you stop to think about it must be close to 0." Is not beleiving that the universe and all of its complexity just somehow came about similar to beleiving that a tornado could run thru a junkyard and out pops a fully functional airplane??? (Albeit, the weather system and everything that goes into creating a tornado and then all the junk would also have to magically evolve over time) How is this not faithbased?? Your magic solution is to just more time into the equation and itll work itself out. What about complex things like blood clotting, this process is a package, it cant gradually just come about step by step unless it had an end goal in mind, no?? http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html
Heres a site which attempts to explain better what Im talking about. Its got links by atheists to his claims as well. I guess you can decide which side you beleive. I tend to believe in a God, and not only for the reason above, its a personal decision and not any more irrational than believing that there is 100% no chance that a God could exist.
Then again, Im coming across defensive like you said theists would.... 
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"What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church...a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them."
--- Martin Luther
Creationism vs Evolution has been discussed at great length in past posts here. Can the Biblical creation story in Genesis be converted into a scientific account of the origin of humanity? Is it a fair and plausible alternative to the theory of evolution? Many people believe so, and some people work hard to make it so. But can it be done honestly and with integrity? I havent seen it yet...your post seems to imply that one requires "faith" to believe in an all powerful God, who created the world from nothing.
Seeing as though you linked to TalkOrigins I thought I would as well...maybe you didnt read this part?
5 Major Misconceptions of Evolution
The five propositions below seem to be the most common misconceptions based on a Creationist straw-man version of evolution. If you hear anyone making any of them, chances are excellent that they don't know enough about the real theory of evolution to make informed opinions about it. - Evolution has never been observed.
- Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
- There are no transitional fossils.
- The theory of evolution says that life originated, and evolution proceeds, by random chance.
- Evolution is only a theory; it hasn't been proved.
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