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Originally Posted by Calgaryborn
Cheese's faith is in the potential good in mankind. That hasn't been demonstrable in the known history of mankind. If he believes that all religions are an invention of mankind then he can't very well point to theism as the cause of the world's sorrow. What is in man himself is the cause of the sorrow we inflict upon one another.
The bible I trust in calls that sin. Cheese doesn't believe in sin(missing the mark) but, rather the potential goodness of mankind. In my mind history supports my position.
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well well well...CalgaryBornAgain chimes in with his usual flatulence.
What took you so long?
You obviously cant understand what is written because as I and others have mentioned on NUMEROUS occasions...
Theism leads to violence...or sorrow if you want it to be. You can look no further than the countless thousands of radical Muslims of today following their leaders blindly into war. So yes...IF man invented religion...to control the masses...then yes that very same religion can be used against the people. Id educate you on little known atrocities like the INQUISITION for example...but it might hurt your mind.
A pig caused hundreds of Indians to kill one another in 1980. The animal walked through a Muslim holy ground at Moradabad, near New Delhi. Muslims, who think pigs are an embodiment of Satan, blamed Hindus for the defilement. They went on a murder rampage, stabbing and clubbing Hindus, who retaliated in kind. The pig riot spread to a dozen cities and left more than 200 dead.
The First Crusade was launched in 1095 with the battle cry "Deus Vult" (God wills it), a mandate to destroy infidels in the Holy Land.
Human sacrifice blossomed in the Mayan theocracy of Central America between the 11th and 16th centuries. To appease a feathered-serpent god, maidens were drowned in sacred wells and other victims either had their hearts cut out, were shot with arrows, or were beheaded.
In the Third Crusade, after Richard the Lion-Hearted captured Acre in 1191, he ordered 3,000 captives -- many of them women and children -- taken outside the city and slaughtered. Some were disemboweled in a search for swallowed gems. Bishops intoned blessings. Infidel lives were of no consequence. As Saint Bernard of Clairvaux declared in launching the Second Crusade: "The Christian glories in the death of a pagan, because thereby Christ himself is glorified."
The Assassins were a sect of Ismaili Shi'ite Muslims whose faith required the stealthy murder of religious opponents. From the 11th to 13th centuries, they killed numerous leaders in modern-day Iran, Iraq and Syria. They finally were wiped out by conquering Mongols -- but their vile name survives.
In 1209, Pope Innocent III launched an armed crusade against Albigenses Christians in southern France. When the besieged city of Beziers fell, soldiers reportedly asked their papal adviser how to distinguish the faithful from the infidel among the captives. He commanded: "Kill them all. God will know his own." Nearly 20,000 were slaughtered -- many first blinded, mutilated, dragged behind horses, or used for target practice.
Islamic jihads (holy wars), mandated by the Koran, killed millions over 12 centuries. In early years, Muslim armies spread the faith rapidly: east to India and west to Morocco. Then splintering sects branded other Muslims as infidels and declared jihads against them.
In the 1950s and 1960s, combat between Christians, animists and Muslims in Sudan killed more than 500,000.
This is just a drop in the bucket BornAgain....