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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
I'm not sure what I said was arrogant. You appear to be getting defensive again and I'm not sure why.
Agreed, its not out of this world to think Nylander is the BPA. He's around the range we're drafting. My personal opinion is that he may be lower on the Flames list then he is on the consensus lists like Bob Mackenzie and THN. You obviously don't have to agree.
I think if you prefer Nylander because you think he's BPA that's fine. You'd be in the majority on this board.
It's not a negative on Nylander. But it does mean that if we're drafting him to fit our immediate needs he fails to do that because he's not ready immediately. So are you in favour of drafting him because he's BPA? Or because he fits our immediate needs? I respect the argument that he is BPA for you. I don't respect the idea that we should prioritize RWs or right shooters and make them the BPA over any other choice due to lack of depth in that area.
Why don't I like Nylander as much as most fans on here? Because I don't value skilled finesse wingers as highly as most people would. I'd much rather have a top pairing d-men. I suspect the Flames management may feel the same way but hey, we're only guessing right?
Nope. My argument to not draft a RW is that there may be better players available that we should draft instead. Nylander isn't in my top 8 for this draft because as I said I don't value skilled finesse wingers as much as most people do.
It doesn't need to be addressed this draft. It could be addressed through trading for an established RW, through trading for RW prospects, through signing RW prospects, through signing established RWs. There are multiple ways to solve the RW issue and the draft is merely one way. The downside with the draft is it likely solves the issue 2-6 years down the line when RW may no longer be much of an issue.
To boil it down I have no problem with you having Nylander as the BPA. I do have a problem with people thinking we can or should solve our immediate needs through the draft. I've noticed that in your rankings over the past few months you tend to prioritize right shooters and have them rise on your rankings above all others. I think that is a dangerous. At times you appear to subscribe to the philosophy of best right shooting forward available and not best player available. If I'm wrong then I apologize.
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The RW issue is both an immediate need and long term need. You simply cannot separate the two. The BPA @ 6 over the 3 defensemen is clearly Nylander who happens to fit the teams need. Long term, short term, any kind of term.
And to answer you question of my preference. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what the Flames sorely lack since Iggy left. RH shooters. Up and down the Flames depth chart from the main roster to the farm to the prospect pool it is a dire dire need to fill. So yeah, without overthinking from a fan perspective what the Flames need RH shooters are gold to me.
Give me a Finn or Nylander over Tkachuk or Dubois, give me McLeod over Jost or Keller or Brown.
If this was last year, I'd say take a D man simply because when you looked at the depth chart, you kind of gagged at the lack of top end depth. Now in one draft BAM, depth was addressed. and greatly too.
This draft, RW or RH shot all day, all night for me. Want size? Tons of that in the later rounds. Skilled RH shooters? Not so much.
At the end of the day though, the Flames have a handle on things, I trust them, whatever pick they make I'll be fine with. But my preferences are aimed at what they lack which is what you look at in a draft.
And last season, I wanted Barzal, Connor, Konecny or Svechnikov or Kylington at the Flames pick. Flames still got the guy. Also, I wanted Rasmus Andersson from the first day that central scouting released their players to watch list. Big RH D man. And that was in the first round when that list came out, as the season went on I thought they could snag him in the 2nd. We got him, and everyone is happy as a clam. I think I've got a good grip on things when it comes to the draft. This year it's a mess but one thing I feel the Flames can get this year in the 1st round is a solid...really solid RH shooter at forward. I hope they go that way but I wont cry if they don't.
I want them to take McLeod just to see the meltdown here. Just for amusement.