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Old 03-29-2016, 09:53 AM   #87
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
Two-thirds of the Muslims in Europe believe Sharia law should take precedence over the secular laws of the country where they reside. 40 per cent of Muslims in the UK want Sharia law. That's about 1.2 million British citizens. 11 per cent of Muslims in the UK approved of the murder of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists. That's about 270,000 British citizens.

From that same study that suggested 2/3 of Muslims in Germany, Austria, Sweden, France, Netherlands, and Belgium think religious rules are more important than secular laws (percentages weighed against total population):

European Muslims (six countries) -
5.2 million might think religious rules are more important than secular laws
5 million don't want homosexuals as friends
4.2 million think the West is out to destroy them
3.8 million think Jews can't be trusted

Compared to American Christians:
24.5 million think religious rules are more important than secular laws
25 million don't want homosexuals as friends
49.1 million think Muslims are out to destroy them
20 million think Jews can't be trusted

Worth looking at the numbers if that's what you want to look at. When you name a high percentage in a small Muslim community, I find it difficult to give it the same weight when right next door there appears to be a much bigger problem in terms of scale.

Anyways, I'm stepping out of this one at this point (don't have much else to say without going in circles). I'll leave it this: in the future, don't say "I'm waiting for moderate Muslims to stand up against extremism" when you mean "I'm waiting for the Muslims directly connected to extremists to stand up against them."

In one, you're naming over 1 billion Muslims and discounting the fact that they are doing amazing things every day in a fight against this ideology (some of whom you've mentioned). In the other, appropriate wording, you're actually talking about the potentially millions of Muslims who are doing nothing. It's an extremely important distinction.
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