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Old 03-13-2016, 08:43 PM   #797
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Originally Posted by Jay Random View Post
The eyeball test can fool you when looking for trends. One of the things you have to look out for is a stable series of data, followed by a sudden one-time change and then a new stable series. The random noise can fool you into not noticing the change and thinking there is a steady upward or downward trend.

The first few seasons on Russell's chart show him as an average defenceman on a bad Columbus team, in which he was better than most of his teammates. Then he spent most of two seasons as an average defenceman on a good St. Louis team, in which he was worse than most of his teammates. Finally you have three seasons with the Flames, when he was markedly worse than Giordano and Brodie. Since those two were playing nearly half the minutes, everybody else's relative numbers skew downwards.

A player's numbers relative to his teammates can't be treated as a series when he keeps changing teams.
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He's played consistently further up in the lineup. From sheltered bottom pair (a la Wotherspoon) in Columbus, to bottom pair (a la Wideman) in St. Louis, to middle pair in Calgary to "sometimes plays more at even strength than Mark Giordano". Overall factoring in quality of competition vs relative possession the most successful role over a decent sample size for him, was his role in St. Louis. We're all rooting for him to prove that wrong in Dallas and get us a 1st round pick though.
I really wish people posting stat charts for advanced stats would give a little more explanation on what the graph or chart is showing. Thanks for the explanation, very helpful in understanding what I'm looking at.

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i think i'm prepare to say that just swapping jokipakka for russell straight across makes sense for both teams. one piece is owed a major payday and possibly doesn't fit the flames future plans the other is a young controlable asset on a modest salary that seems to fit with the flames stated direction of size and mobility. Dallas also isn't short changed in the deal as they get a legitimate boost in their cup quest from russell.

that's how i would break the deal down were it one for one. however this has the potential to be a grand slam for the flames with all that dallas added to the deal. i was also a little surprised BTW that we got a roster dman back in the trade at all, just doesn't happen too often that teams subtract any player from an area of need when loading up at the deadline.
I would have been happy with just Jokipakka coming back for Russell at the beginning of the year, the rest is all gravy.

Flames are desperate for young defenders. Traded for Hamilton, traded for Jokipakka, wouldn't surprise me to see them trade for another defender under 26 at the draft. If Smid goes on the LTIR for the remainder of his contract and the flames can move Wideman, suddenly there are some spots available in the lineup for ELC deals. Retaining salary on wideman + an ELC is still better for the cap than keeping Wideman on the roster.

Best case scenario they walk out of this draft with two potential NHL quality defenders under 23, hopefully one by trade and the other with a draft pick. Then, next year, wingers.
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