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Originally Posted by Locke
While I agree, dont forget that they totally were supposed to.
Luke was supposed to be some sort of Basterd Jedi and Vader was horribly injured so he cant do all the fancy dance moves anymore.
I think the point was to highlight how awesome the Jedi used to be.
Also yes, the fancy lightsaber baton-twirling crap was annoying. I'm hoping its a bit more brutally realistic in the new movie.
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Its a key point that you're making though, and in a lot of ways that's why I liked the sword play in the prequels.
Those Jedi at the twilight of the republic were for the most part fully trained and fully healthy and fully prepared. The Ben Kenobi's in his prime, and the Mace's and the Yoda's and on the other side, the Mauls, Dooku's and Sideous, had all spent years honing their craft, and they were fast and prepared for any eventuality.
By the time Obi Wan and Vader met again, Obi Wan was not only old, but he probably hadn't picked up a light sabre in anger in 30 years, Vader probably hadn't seen a Jedi or fought one in the same amount of time, plus he wasn't young, probably being in his mid 60's and weighted down by his injuries and that suit of armor.
When Luke fought Vader in Empire, Vader was still battered and old and probably rusty, Luke wasn't really a fully trained Jedi, a couple of weeks of training by carrying Yoda around, and lifting up Artoo, probably wouldn't have put him near the speed and confidence and technique and force control of the prequel jedi.
Even in Jedi, Luke hadn't really been trained up as a fully loaded Jedi, Luke might have had a powerful connection, but he was nowhere near as fast or dangerous as the last great generation of Jedi, and Vader probably didn't have his heart in the duel. In the end the fights in the classic trilogy had to be older and less masterful then the duels in the prequels.
In the Dooku versus Skywalker duel in ROTS we also saw a major change in Anakin's style when Dooku told him to use his anger and hatred, and it was almost like for that brief moment we saw what a healthy Vader would have been like against the Jedi. He went to power moves and overwhelmed Dooku, in that brief 10 seconds, I saw the Vader without the armor that I wanted to see, with all power and focus.
When he fought Obi Wan, he fought as a Jedi because he wasn't truly Vader until he lost everything but the Dark Side of the Force.