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Originally Posted by OldDutch

I find it rich not that he has many homes, or burns tons of oil while crusading against the oil sands, but that he has turned the conversion to net human benefit. So let's play his game.

By shutting down Oil Sands there is a net loss of ethically developed oil. That oil will need to be replaced (refineries gotta refine 24/7). So you will need to replace those barrels from somewhere. Iraq? Saudi Arabia? Lybia? Iran? Congo?

Those countries unlike Canada have human rights issues. They have a lively black market slave trade. So by eliminating the oil sands you are increasing human rights injustices.

Therefore David Suzuki is a lot like a slave trader himself using his logic. His arguments for a reduction of oil sands oil will factually empower human rights abusers. So it's basically the same thing right?

David Suzuki needs to realize that discourse like this does nothing productive. It in facts hurts his cause and his credibility. It radicalizes the conversation in both directions. I think go forward we need balance, and David isn't it.

Canada needs the oil sands. They need to be developed responsibly. I too don't see why we can't remove the zealots on both sides and have a dialog like grown ups.

Originally Posted by OldDutch

In all fairness many of the environmentalists/actors have cursory knowledge of the subjects/causes they are passionate about. Look up Jane Fonda in Vancouver for example. Same goes for many of the people who work for environmental groups such as Sierra Club or David Suzuki Foundation. They just don't understand how the larger system works, mainly due to inexperience or not-wanting to understand.

I have a friend who works for David Suzuki Foundation and have had these conversations. They celebrate Keystone XL's failure. I counter with more oil by rail. They counter we shouldn't us any oil and should use green tech. I counter with show me a green tech that works to the scale of oil at similar cost today. I further counter that more oil will come from murderous regimes. They counter with "you will be on the wrong side of history" and I am "a climate change denier".

That is what it is in a nutshell. These folks have limited knowledge of a complex subject and are driven from an emotional place. Facts in the end are meaningless. They are doing something righteous and anyone who descents is wrong.

Incidentally it makes them controllable weapons/puppets, one that David is focusing with comments like this. Human manipulation at it's finest perpetrated by a sweet little old man who loves his trees.

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