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Old 11-02-2015, 12:03 PM   #161
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Originally Posted by GirlySports View Post
I think Toronto has it a bit backwards. Teams like Kansas City, Tampa Bay in the past and Chicago Cubs in the future ride their youngsters into the playoffs and deal with the consequences once those contracts expire. Yes Kansas City will need to blow it up at some point but they've already got two World Series appearances. San Francisco used Sandoval as much as they could and then let him go once he was useless. They are reloading for next year.

Toronto was doing the opposite. Those teams above would never trade a cheap prospect like Hechavarria. Toronto trades him for Reyes which is 20 million more and has a bad wheel. And in that trade they add Buerhle and Johnson, another 30 million. Then they add Dickey that's 15 more million. That still only got them to .500 so of course Rogers is not happy.

Fire of the Phoenix: no doom and gloom here. If Shipiro can get a good GM I think they'll be better off without AA but it'll take a year or two.
This is the exact thing I'm talking about. If they make smarter decisions, they don't need to have a 180m+ payroll. You can't have middling players making that kind of coin.

You are right, they did seem to go about it backwards to an extent. I wonder how much of that was at the direction of ownership though? Up to that point, AA did not seem like that kind of a GM at all. He seemed mostly risk averse while he steadily built up the farm to the point where it was top 3/5 in all of baseball... and then suddenly he made those two trades.

The team clearly wasn't ready yet, but he suddenly started making win now moves anyway. I was so very confused, and still am to be honest. I get that we had two of the best hitters in baseball who were in their 30's but the moves were still completely out of left field for where the team was at overall. Especially considering the guys we got. Dickey was totally an asset management dream from the Mets POV and the Marlins trade was mostly for mediocre and overpaid players. It seemed completely against AA's MO. Still, overall AA's body of work was good outside those two trades, hopefully Shapiro isn't a step down.
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