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Originally Posted by blankall
Depending on how tall he means by tall, 5000 is a pretty good estimate. Especially for someone new to weightlifting who is tall and a tough gainer. That'd be for someone 6'4''+ or so. Rippetoe recommends starting at 4000 a day for an average sized person. You have to remember that newbie gains are the next best thing to Cell Teching.
Maybe 5000 is excessive, but he's certainly going to need at least 4000. Also you can't just tell someone to calculate their TDEE. If he was capable of that kind of exact control, he wouldn't have trouble putting on mass in the first place.
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Sure, you're going to gain muscle, but you're going to pack on fat. A ton of fat. If you're a new lifter, you'll likely get discouraged since you're becoming fat, start to cut, and then just stall progress.
Depending on your size, around 3,000 calories would be an absolute maximum amount of calories someone should eat when they're starting out to gain strength and mass. That's a properly tracked, 3,000 calories. 5,000 calories is way too excessive, and it's a reckless bulk that will have you put on a ton of extra weight.
IIFYM has some good calculators that should be used as a benchmark for what to consume -
http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/
Looking at V's stats, 3,000 calories would be a perfect amount to start with.