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Old 08-08-2015, 11:13 PM   #179
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I guess you missed the most important point: people are lazy. I'm lazy. Give me something that summarises the current state of the field that I can read in an hour and be done with it.
Sigh, well we don't know for sure. What is likely that we will confirm is that we have a neurological and bio brain barrier with the gut which has everything to do with how much energy you have daily, if you will be overweight, skinny, muscular...

The immense power of this connection to our human biome, is at this point the best explanation of why obesity is such a problem and how we are to this point unable to figure it out.

As I always have to when speaking to weight loss groups in Iceland, I need to make clear that a few pounds overweight, does not create this change in the brain which will tie into the gut and therefore make it nearly impossible to keep the weight off.

I get this from all sides, I have the "love your fat body" people telling me to stop promoting biggest loser, or anything I write or discuss in the public forum.

On the other hand, I have been lately calling out the gyms, the diet programs and people who make a living off of taking money from obese people and failing them at a 98% failure rate long term.

I don't have the answer for them, I am not sure how we do this better and how we find a way to keep the weight off long term. I think will have to figure out the biome and brain connection, once we understand the gut's power over our body, we will once and for all have found the holy grail of dealing with obesity.

The reason guys I get so upset, is because you belittle and talk down to 98% of people who diet and fail. That the suggestion is they are just lazy, or unable to commit to eating right.

The fact you base these opinions as people who have never been obese, and don't know what the powerful biological and psychological triggers have on fighting against even the most determined of us who lose the weight, means you come off as pretty condescending and insulting to us who understand what it is all about.

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We're not all going to become obesity researchers overnight, however asking for information to literally educate ourselves doesn't preclude us from participating in the discussion.
Absolutely not, but the majority of comments here have been about people thinking they have the answer.

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You want to win hearts and minds? Then make it easy to understand, and act like you give a #### about educating people rather than getting angry at them. What you are displaying is not passion; it is arrogance and irritation.
You mean the links I put up, the videos, the at this point hours I have spent answering people's comments...

Obesity is not easy, we do not understand why we are failing so massively.

Odd that you would call me arrogant and irritating, considering the insulting comments made against obese people in this thread, and in general. Fat shaming is the last great politically correct insult that most people have no issue with making.

I just don't know how much more I can answer, like those anti GMO, anti Vaxx people I deal with every week, it is even worse with the pre conceived notions against obesity. You have an opinion on why you think people are fat, and little I can say or others will change that.

Sad to say, because the science is pretty clear, yet few of us stand up to say it.
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