[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So far my biggest suspect is HG15. He seems to be trying to put attention on others or anything but himself. Kind of reminds me of last game and we saw how that turned out.
Also Timbo, I am not being meek, I am still feeling this one out.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Still suspicious of HG, just seems to me he is trying to put attention elsewhere. SebC's weird posts are concerning too. Not sure where to place my vote yet.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ok, so like I said before, HG15 seems most suspect to me. He is participating in the game yet trying to steer attention anywhere but himself. The facts are it is early so it is super hard to get a read on anything. Oling played a brilliant game last time yet turned out to be scum but something tells me he is on the straight and narrow this time, gut feeling. SebC's posts are strange but maybe that is just the way he plays. Same with squiggs, coming out early with his vanilla comment but what to make of it? It is basically a crapshoot at this point and we still have time to figure out the voting which is why I have not voted yet. If I did it would be HG15 right now unless something changes. Or do we vote for someone not participating and lurking? Anyhow, if I was scum I would not be calling attention to myself and I would rather we not waste votes on me and hurt the passengers early on when it would be in my best interest to try and sniff out one of the bad guys.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You know from playing before that if you sat in the background and did nothing it would be really suspicious given the past way you played the game. You should also know that at this point it is a crapshoot and my track record early in these games tends to suck. Take what you will from that.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

This is an easy vote for me, I should have stuck with my original instincts. Puxlut has the same suspicions, HG is directing the game and I believe he is a host for sure. I am also suspicious of Timbo. Notice both are after me because they know I am an experienced player and therefore a threat to the scum. Go back and look at the way HG has manipulated the votes and play. Hell, he even got me caught up in it in the last vote when he assured us all GS was a host. He also has to say "since I know I am town" constantly to try and get that to stick in everyone's head.

Vote:Hockeyguy15

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No I am not, I am pointing out the obvious here. I want us to succeed in weeding out the scum and for me that points to who is controlling the game here. I am a passenger, if I am not let me forever be known on CP as a lying dirty Canuck fan!

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Not at all, I can't be on here 24/7 but I am on here when I can be. We have lost two passengers and look who has been driving the boat. I may be wrong on you being a host but it is too dangerous to take that chance given how you played and won last time. I will go with my initial instincts this time.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have done nothing at all except sniff you out at the beginning of the game. Yes, you have no one to blame, you led a bunch of posters down the path to lynching two passengers. Yes, I put the blame on you because it fits and you have been steering the ship. I have asked questions, theorized on posters, tried to work to the benefit of the passengers. You obviously cannot claim the same so you throw these smoke screen posts out. Not buying it.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Go ahead and vote me out, when I flip town the spotlight will go on Timbo and Hockeyguy15. I have spent some time re-reading posts. The other guy on my radar is GGG, something is definitely wrong with the way he is posting this game. Hockeyguy15 has been steering the ship and I think he is scum but there is a small chance I am wrong. Timbo on the other hand is definitely scum, I have zero doubt. So on that note.

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Vote:Timbo

Go ahead and kill me, if it gets the passengers on the right track and leads to some scum kills and the passengers survive I still win. Have at it.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Why would I change my vote to Timbo from you if my sole objective was to stay in the game? The votes were on you just as much as myself and leading the charge against you imo would be easier as you have steered the group into lynching two passengers. I changed my vote because I am more convinced Timbo is scum than you. That does not mean I have changed my mind on you, just trying to help direct the passengers in the right direction so that if I end up lynched they will know where to focus. As a host the smart play on my end would have been to keep the focus on you, not Timbo.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Because I misunderstood one thing? The only thing that looks bad is for Timbo and yourself after I posted what I did. You two have been thick as thieves through the whole game. Don't try and direct the attention elsewhere. The bottom line is you have steered the ship to two passenger lynches and Timbo in one way or another has gone after every strong player but you. So he may have known Oling did not turn when he handed him the spore, that just confirms my posts that he was frustrated or upset about it even if it was in a later post. One of you is the Captain, the other is his lackey. By the way that voting and play has gone I would guess bizaro is the other. I put two giant pages of thoughts and evidence and your reply is that? You realize how bad that looks right?

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So I made some mistakes, I have been busy and I am just human. Still beats driving the boat toward two passenger lynches right?

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I am glad to see that others are on the same page as me here. HG has certainly been steering the game and I have already made my case for Timbo. I am fine with voting either one.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Except you would not be dumb enough to draw the scum card twice and play the exact same way. I have to admit that Timbo and bizaro have thrown me for a bit of a loop with their unvotes. One could still be scum taking the attention of themselves by doing so but I highly doubt both would take off their votes if they both were. So odds are I am wrong on at least one, possibly both. I think you are scum HG but I don't think you are the Captain, too risky to be steering the ship the way you have been. I think the Captain is probably more of a lurker, he or she posts here and there but keeps to the background. I think the other host is probably the same, possibly an inexperienced player. I think the scum strategy at the beginning was to keep two active but more or less lying in the weeds and to send the strongest most experienced player to start leading the herd in the direction the scum want. A person who can talk there way out of accusations and who has gone deep in the game before. I am still really leary of Timbo, the trail still has me leaning toward scum and I think he might have unvoted to cause confusion. I have no idea about bizaro now. It is still really tough at this stage to get a good read on him or most for that matter. The only consistency to my thoughts and theories is you. I have to place my vote in what I think is best for the town. If you are lynched and flip town I made a mistake but is a lesser one than the others because whether you are scum which I believe you are, or passenger you have pushed us to two passenger lynches thus far and focusing all your efforts on a 3rd.

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Vote:Hockeyguy15

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You are right in the fact that if HG15 is also town that hurts the town big time. My problem is he has voted in favour of lynching two passengers, he is absolutely focused on leading the charge against me and I know I am town, and when I led the charge against Timbo and posted why I believed he was scum it did nothing to consider Timbo at all, he just kept at me. Something does not seem right to me there.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ok, so I have looked at some of ECF's posts, I am not convinced he is scum. I am not sure he is town either but at this point I am not changing my vote to him given what I have read on here. I really have a hard time trusting HG15 at this point and I have stated my reasons.
If I am wrong and he is town then by voting him out we lose a pretty big asset. However, if I am right and he is a host we will eliminate perhaps the biggest threat on the scum side. I am waivering here a bit, I'll admit. It is a tough lynch. Convince me HG15 is town if you believe he is.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I know that if he was scum there would be little to no advantage on not voting for me. I do dind it extremely intersting though that once again HG is leading the charge against someone he is sure is a host. How has that turned out so far? What I see is that HG was out full guns for me even after I made an argument about you possibly being scum. Then when he couldn't get the votes to stick on me he went right after mrkazj. I want to know what has indicated that mrkazj is scum? I can't find anything really. I think he is trying to steer us into another passenger lynch. My stance on him has not changed so I will vote accordingly.I think he is the strong player on the scum team and they are using him to steer the votes while the others are mid pack to low posters.

Vote:Hockeyguy15

These are all of your posts listing your reasons for thinking I am scum. From what I can tell all you've ever said is I am directing attention everywhere and that I'm driving bus. Those are literally the only things you say about me.

You say it doesn't work out when I focus on one person, and yet here we are with you focused on me seemingly all the time.

You blame me for leading us to passenger lynches, yet on post 435 you write off the activeStick lynch like it isn't a big deal.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Nothing, except it is still a crapshoot. We took a shot and missed, it happens a lot in this game. Activestick should have defended himself and role revealed or at least put up an argument, he let his fellow passengers down. Back to the drawing board

We are 0 for 1 when I went along with the lynch on day 1.
We are 0 for 1 when I was vocal on the lynch on day 2.
We are 0 for 1 when I did not go along with the group on day 3.

You blame me for driving the bus constantly, yet 2 of the 3 lynches were not because I drove everyone there.

Either you're town and you are playing a lazy game, or you're a host and you have nothing so you keep repeating the same thing. If you are town and you really do think I am scum, put in some effort and actually show people why you think I am scum instead of just saying I am driving the bus all the time.