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Originally Posted by dsavillian
I can't say I agree with the hate for this last episode. I thought the hallucination scene was one of the 10 best scenes of the series to date. The foreshadowing in the opening sequence and the symbolism throughout were very well done. The setup to the death was kind of weak, but I have to forgive it in the shadow of the high points of the episode.
The radio broadcasts were especially fantastic. It was a great presentation of Tyreese's feelings toward what the group had to do to survive. It was a neat way to describe the group's actions from a perspective that presents them as something other than the protagonists ("then terrorizing the village by night, carrying out revenge attacks involving hacking innocents with machetes and, in some cases, setting them on fire")
The walking dead indeed
edit: the more I think about it, the more I realize that the broadcasts are describing all the horrors of the world that is, not just what Rick's group has done.
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Originally Posted by OldDutch
I like the perspective that the radio was about Rick's group. Tyrese right or wrong, that wasn't him. This new world wasn't him. The story said it, it had to be this way, he was uncomfortable with who he was in this new world. He wasn't meant to survive.
A lot of the episode made little sense as to what they were driving at until I turned it off and pondered it. For that I give it credit, trying to express something deeper than hack and slash. Did they totally hit the mark, not really, but I respect them trying to make the show more about he group and how they aren't all cut out to survive. The toll of living has killed them slowly and now it doesn't matter who kills anymore just that it gets done.
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Fair enough. Like I said, I enjoy trying to figure out stuff like that. I like symbolism. But it was like they were trying to beat us over the head with it. Constant repetition. 'Pay attention to this, it's important!' Good foreshadowing should be much more subtle that that. If that's what it was.
I do like some of both of your insights. I'm definitely looking even deeper now. Still doesn't sit great with me. They coulda done it better, if that was what they were truly going for.
And based on the past writing, I'm not sure they'd write it like that. Not sure they are even capable of it.
Touching on Tyrese's death, the whole episode and 'dream' sequence probably woulda meant more if they truly developed his character. And would give importance to your insights. But Tyrese never became someone truly fleshed out. (A large majority of the characters seem two dimensional.) So not only was his death a 'meh', but any important symbolism gets gets glossed over, because there is no investment in the character
Why do I care about him figuring it out in his dream sequence? And why make a passable character suddenly so insightful and important?