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Originally Posted by corporatejay
The more I think about the call, the more I don't hate it. I get Pete's explanation, I get why they did it, Kearse missed the block (on a great play from Browner) and Butler made an amazing play to not only break up the pass but hold on for the pick.
Seahawks play with balls and sometimes it bites you, the Pats came up huge on that play and they deserved the win.
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
Look how open the middle of the field is. Man on Man coverage with a rookie corner, no safety help. This article by Barnwell is fantastic.
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24h later, I'm not coming down from the ledge. Bevell (not Carroll) made the wrong, SB losing call. Full stop.
Firstly, the timeout wasted, (that caused all of this back and forth decision making to not waste time by running on that play in the first place), that was the disaster, as I said in an earlier post, was the one not after the Kearse circus catch, it was a few plays earlier, on the play right after the two minute warning, after a first down incomplete pass. Inexplicably, they didn't get the next snap off and had to waste one. I was fuming.
Then, once you get a half yard from the goal line, all rules change.
Even if you want to make the pass (I don't think Seattle ever threw the ball when on the goal line the last couple years at very least.), it shouldn't be into the high traffic area, where all sorts of things can happen with 4+ guys around the ball and you're throwing to an area like Wilson did.
If they stack the receivers (like they did last night often, including the late 2Q TD; not often they showed that look all season), with that coverage that far off (almost 10 yards at the snap between Lockette and his guy), the call should've been Lockette to take two steps back and and turn to Wilson who fires an almost lateral. Then its a 4-5 yard sprint for Lockette to beat his man to the goal line/ or wider to the pylon, one on one, with Kearse locked up with his man squarely providing blocking.
It's that, or throw a back corner route and throw it high; if the receiver can't get it, ball is out of bounds.
As it was, Wilson's throw was off by a yard or so to the middle of the field, and Kearse missed the rub because of the angle Lockette had to come in at...Wilson could've put it on Lockette earlier...but again, things are so tight, in that area and everything needing to be so precise, that there shouldn't have been that risk taken.
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Originally Posted by darklord700
The other point that no one has mentioned was the crucial Seattle offside call when NE got the ball back. NE at their half yard line pretty much can only throw it 4 times because they can't risk Seattle scoring a safety.
It was very probable that Seattle will get the ball back with precious seconds left.
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Yeah, though I was still enraged, and was barely coherent still, that would've been interesting. Brady would've had to push forward, and all it would've done is wasted the time out, and would've had to try it again. If Seattle had two or three timeouts as they should've, would've been very interesting.
Brady may not have gotten out, and had to kick the ball back to Seattle. Even if Brady would've gotten barely out, SEA calls the last timeout, then maybe the next snap run around the endzone and then given up the safety, there'd be about 12-14 seconds left. A free kick, and assuming it was decent, would've given Seattle the ball about midfield, and about one play, maybe, to setup a long FG to win. Or, if a poor kick, call a fair catch on the free kick and try an extra long Hauschka FG to win by 1. No time would come off the clock in that case
Anyways, there were all sorts of turning points, as there are in games that swing in the score like that...but again, when you're half a yard from a win, with a timeout, all that is out the window.
Throw all the stats out you want about probabilities too, the key one is that Lynch didn't get less than 2 yards on any carry all game, maybe two games, and he needed 1/4 of that to win the SB.