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Originally Posted by Rathji
So, I wanted to figure out the best way to say this and make sure I had as much info as possible before I posted, but my night action (which I won't specify what it was, or if I have an ability that I can even use as a night action) was redirected to GP_Matt last night.
I looked at the Wiki and it is quite likely that this is the result of a Role Manipulator, as no other group of roles.
There are really three options here, I will lay them out here in my sleep deprived state to have you all check my logic:
1) GP_Matt redirected my ability to himself, thinking it might save himself. I don't know that this is very likely, since I think far more targeted abilities will screw with/kill a person than help them.
2) A mafia member, knowing I wasn't mafia, wanted my ability to go to GP_Matt. I can't figure out why they might do this, other than if they thought I might be a vigilante and try and force a town kill as the second night kill. This is extremely unlikely, simply because short of killing GP_Matt, I don't see how this action would make sense. I makes me wonder of this role would ever be assigned to a mafia player, as it seems like it would be under powered.
3) A Townie thought I was Mafia, and was hoping to make me kill/be a detriment to someone they suspected of being mafia. There were a few people who at least had me somewhere on their list of suspects. This would be a pretty smart move, and makes a lot of sense.
So if someone wants to verify my logic, I would welcome anything I missed, but for now I am going to conclude that #3 is far more likely. Once I realized this, I debated posting it, as it narrows down a role to the few people who thought I was mafia. This also means that the people who thought I was mafia had a higher than likely chance of being town. This list includes Timbo and formlate, as best I can tell, but I am literally faling asleep as I scroll through the thread to try and confirm. At any rate, they were the ones who made the biggest stink, and one of them even continued onto today.
I am putting both of them in my likely town category.
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Surprised no one is talking about this yet - I'll get it started.
I agree option 1 is quite unlikely and should not be considered. Option 2 is a bit more likely, but since Matt has been a large target this whole time, it doesn't really make sense either. I further agree that option 3 is the most likely of the ones you listed.
However, there is an option 4 Rathji did not consider. A townie, thinking Rathji was a townie, redirected the action to Matt, thinking Matt was mafia. For me, this makes the most sense. There was a lot of distrust towards Matt near the end of day 1, and likely some anger after RD flipped town, so it would make a lot of sense for a townie to re-direct the power to Matt to kill / expose him in some way. I do realize this is very similar to Rathji's option 3, but I don't think a townie would have to assume Rathji was mafia in order to re-direct his power on to Matt.
All in all, I'm not sure how much this post helps us with the vague information provided. I agree Rathji's power should be kept secret, but without us knowing the power, all we really know now is that there is likely a role manipulator out there. Makes me wonder if the post was meant to help us, or just a long winded way of making us feel more comfortable with two people as part of the light. (Or Rathji was just sleepy and thought the post would have been helpful).
I'd like to hear other's thoughts on this.