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Originally Posted by dissentowner
No, I said if someone were to refuse to show their I.D. to an officer it leads me to believe that person probably has something to hide.
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Yes and that is what is worrisome to me.
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As of yet nobody who thinks that view is wrong has given me one good reason to contradict that opinion.
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The charter of rights and court decisions have made it abundantly clear we don't need a good reason to refuse to show ID. You are the one who needs a reason to demand ID.
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Given that I already said the officer should not be asking without giving a reason first what don't you understand. Here, let me give you a scenario. Officer approaches you and says they are looking for Joe Blow who's description makes the officer believe that might be you. He asks if he can see your I.D. You don't have to show him I.D. but tell me why you wouldn't?
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I probably would. If another person decided differently and they wanted to exercise their rights that's fine. You shouldn't be assuming he's up to something illegal now though. Don't pull the bull#### "nothing to hide" card though. If you have nothing to hide I'm sure you would be fine telling us your name and address right now too, right? Or are you up to something illegal?