Labelled the points just so I can address them individually:
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Originally Posted by Thor
1. I really don't understand your hostility here. I am fascinated by the science of human sexuality, have been for a long time. From my first post I clearly stated there's two discussions for me, one is if this thread bothers posters and especially to women here we should remove it.
2. Two, is sexuality is so often ridiculed, shamed, and in this case an emotional issue that I like to stick to what we know, the science, our best understanding and try to make a rational discussion of something so important, healthy and fun. By suggesting this, nowhere do I condone Misogyny. Men objectify women, the science suggests there is a lot of biological evolution to play here, and because its uncomfortable you shout down me for wanting to discuss it?
3. Sure sexuality as a discussion can be uncomfortable, society loves to demonize, shame and try to tell people what they should or should not be aroused by. Its also quite complex, touches on various scientific fields and its a great topic of calm, rational and thoughtful discussion.
4. What I would disagree with is the suggestion that is made often that men who look at these pictures should not, or are misogynistic for doing so.
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1. I think you know why a certain amount of hostility exists. If you constantly excuse the objectification of women as "science" then you're going to get a negative reaction.
2. There is nothing healthy and fun about "5/10, would not bang" or "look at his wife, gross!". Who is that fun for? Who is it healthy for? As said above, we are a highly evolved species capable of a great many thing, so to say that men objectify women because of evolution not only excuses it, but does so in a fairly silly way. Considering the amount of men who are able to separate their biological reactions from their outwardly reactions, I'd say it's a lame excuse.
3. This whole point is dangerously condescending. This thread isn't about what you are/are not allowed to be aroused by, nor is anyone in this thread uncomfortable talking about sex. Suggesting FireFly is not calm, or rational enough to have a discussion about sexuality is probably incredibly insulting. (Granted, you may not have meant it, but be careful).
4. Who has said that in this thread? Where is the discussion about how men who look at those pictures shouldn't or are misogynists for doing so? It hasn't been said once as far as I can tell, so who are you disagreeing with? If anything, most of the women have specifically said there is nothing wrong with the pictures or those who enjoy looking at beautiful people.