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Originally Posted by Shawnski
I think you are confusing Ayn Rand's objectivism with libertarianism.
Rand hated libertarians.
Libertarians care. I care. The mindsets you talk about are ones painted upon us. In some cases, it is probably true, however that is not even remotely close to the norm.
One could argue that those who believe the state should look after people are the selfish ones. Instead of taking a personal stake in helping to resolve an individual's needs (and resolving the root cause), people wash their hands of issues by throwing money at problems. This in turn can result in a variety of moral hazards.
There is lots of great discussion about depression here on CP. I would posit that the alarming increase in cases partially fueled from moral hazards such as the family issue I discussed in my reply to Rouge. The seed of depression is often planted in early childhood. Moral hazard at work.
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Objectivism and libertarianism go hand in hand. For christsakes, they even share a Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberta...nd_Objectivism
If you think libertarianism has been co-opted by fedora-wearing woman-hating poor person-expoiting objectivists, I have bad news.
The most visible "libertarians" of the last 30 years, John Hospers, Milton Friedman, Paul Ryan, Ron Paul, Rand Paul etc. etc. are all Objectivist Libertarians. As well, almost every naive South Park-libertarian I've known has eventually morphed into an Objectivist Libertarian.
They are most certainly not all Penn Jillette (who just comes across as an ideologue imo).