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Old 07-19-2014, 11:34 PM   #583
Chill Cosby
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Default Once again Israel shows it doesn't screw around

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Originally Posted by Coys1882 View Post
That's a ludicrous post. From what I've read if the Israelis weren't so vigilant in their evacuation training and bunker building - the death toll would be much higher. Maybe Hamas should be using assets to protect their populace instead of using them as disposable shields.

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lu·di·crous
ˈlo͞odəkrəs/
adjective
so foolish, unreasonable, or out of place as to be amusing; ridiculous.
I take a little bit of offense to that. Instead of insulting someone, could you try to think about it first?

What are they cheering? They are cheering the defence of their country. They are cheering the IDF attacks on Gaza. And what is the main, most prominent, and highest cost of these attacks? The deaths of children and innocent people. Israel's strikes on the Hamas are insignificant compared to the damage being done to Gaza

Children, women, innocents, schools, hospitals, their ability to obtain fresh water... these things are being lost. It is, ultimately, the fault of Hamas, but that is not how it is seen in Gaza. The people of Gaza aren't begging to be saved by Israel, they feel they're being attacked by Israel.

I'm still of the mind that they can cheer if they want to cheer. Both sides cheer. Palestinian civilians cheer the rockets that leave Gaza, because Israel is seen as oppressive, and many in and around the Gaza area believe they are committing genocide. Whether we think that's right or wrong, it doesn't matter what WE think.

Regardless, the cheering is a release. It's a morally misguided release, but it's still a release and in a conflict so dire and stressful to the people involved, it's fully understandable.

It needs to be said though: Israel is not killing kids on purpose, but it is killing kids. That's a simple fact. Israelis do not cheer the deaths of kids on purpose, but they do cheer the deaths of kids.

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Rabbi Shmuel Herzfeld says that when people hear about the downfall of an enemy, rabbis often remind them of a verse from Proverbs: “Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles.”
Just out curiosity, on a slightly different point. What's your awareness level on human shields? How do you define what it means in this context? Because a few people (including yourself) don't really seem to be using it accurately to what it means in this context.

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