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Old 05-06-2014, 01:18 PM   #905
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A couple thoughts on starseed.

When ineedanother declared, starseed rushed to his defense ravenously to the point that I was extremely suspicious of it. He was so over the top in his devotion to follow ineedanother in voting that it was a major contributing factor in increasing my resilience to force ineedanother's hand.
Ravenously? Here are my early posts after the reveal:

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If no one else claims to be the vigilante, we should get the doctor to protect you tonight, and try to hold off until at least one or two more days to use the kill.
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That way, we have more info to go on when it happens.
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Maybe we give it the night to see if someone else claims to be the vigilante, then if no one comes forward, you pick one of those three to lynch, then we could have you kill off one of the remaining two if necessary, or hold off for more info. Provided that the doctor is paying attention and makes sure to save you over night.
I advocated giving time to confirm the reveal. I suspected he was telling the truth, because it would be stupid to lie about being the vigilante of all players. If he were lying, the real vigilante had a clear shot at a mafia player right away, which would have been a big victory for us early on, as we would not only have the early kill, but a proven townsperson leader.


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Also, starseed was doing this while seeming to support ineedanother's lead, when it occurs to me that he could have been showing that support because there wasn't anyone that he cared about in the line of fire. This kills 2 birds with one stone as it helps establish him as a rabid townie, while protecting people by directing attention away.

Third, 2 of the targets that he was in support of killing were Townies (GP_Matt and myself). Not many will believe that at this point, but for me it is solid knowledge, of course.

I don't know if this means anything, but it was something I noticed in the wake of the vig reveal, so thought I would post it in case I end up getting wacked. Although, with all the people painting lukewarm tarkets on my back, I wouldn't be suprised if the Mafia left me alone, hoping for a friendly fire kill
I looked back at the pre-vig-reveal stage, and I saw that it was GP_Matt who planted the idea of a blind voting block in my head. (he also thought having the cop come out early would be a good idea, which made me suspicious, but obviously he turned out to be town)

I thought that a blind voting block could be an effective strategy with a proven townie leader, so I started pushing for that strategy. I am pushing for the strategy of having him decide on the target going forward, not just isolated to his early picks. It is not in the interests of the mafia to want a townie decide on the group lynches. (which is why I fully expected push back to the idea, even if indirect)
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