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Originally Posted by fotze
Are there any cases where something like this ruins someone's life? Maybe the rape thing on the east coast where that girl killed herself but that is a different animal.
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Originally Posted by Dion
I highly doubt anyone's life would be ruined over that. At the most she might face some harsh remarks from friends or coworkers who thought she was being disrespectful. Others might say it was an over reaction and tell her to ignore the comments.
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Really? You really think someone's life could be ruined over this?
Maybe we have to clarify what "ruined" means.
To me "ruined life" means stuff like losing your job, being ostracized from your friends and family, getting a divorce, maybe even going into hiding or moving away... You know, actual terrible things happening.
The worst consequences of this s(h)ituation will probably be listening to her friends say stuff like "I saw you on twitter, letting Princess take a dump at the cemetery!Ha ha ha!"
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This thread has made it clear that there are 2 obvious camps on very extreme sides of this. One side thinks this woman should be publicly shamed and ostracized, the other thinks no big deal. And this is entirely based on hearsay without any chance to get her side of the story. AT ALL. Just taking some random internet poster at face value with 3rd party info, based on what a friend said. She may very well have been flippant with the picture taker because he was a creep, or didn't want to stand there and debate him. If some stranger was photographing me in that manner, I certainly would be.
Let's say her boss, or manager at her job is on the "OMG this is total desecration of a grave and she is the most horrible person ever." side. And she is in fact fired over it. Then she loses her mortgage. Then she hangs herself. Then what? Will that make everyone happy? Because people have killed themselves over much more trivial things. A family member of mine certainly did two years ago. Something much more trivial.
There was no crime committed here. There was no victim. And the woman did not ask her dog to crap on that spot. There was no property damage. At worst a City bylaw was broken. If the dude never took the photograph, and she picked it up, it would be tantamount to the "If a tree falls in the forest." question. If anyone is at fault here, it is the dog who took action to squat on that spot. Had the woman been kneeling there facing the head stone, next to the dog, with tears in her eyes, and the dog sadly looking at her, this would be a chance for a beautifully sad photo, and nobody would give two craps about the bylaw being broken. Instagram sad face filters would be added, people would put clever dogisms under it, and it would be spammed and twatted all over Facebook with with comments like 'lyk dis if u cry errytym.'
There are scenarios where yes, I feel people being confronted publicly with legit questions is ok. Look at the Clint Hardman scenario. The dude was blatantly scamming, weaved a web of lies that was easily unravelled, nothing added up, there was mountains of evidence contradicting him, and he absolutely refused to address any of the questions regarding his military service. I am ok with that, as he put himself in the public eye by agreeing to the SUN interview, and nobody bought it. And he refused to address it.
At worst, with all the evidence that is currently available, the only thing this woman did wrong was walk her dog in a cemetery. That's it. The dog pooped, and she picked it up. If the dog pooped 10 feet to the left or right where there is no grave, there is nothing to shame this woman over.
And no, if some dog took a dump on my or a family members grave site, no I would not care one bit. I am dead, and cease to exist. Plus I am still insulated by a vault, a casket, and a good 6 feet of soil from the turd. Could this be construed as insensitive, sure. But is it worth shaming this woman on the likes of people that are scam artists and endangering lives on freeways. Not even close.
The outrage is entirely based on superstition and tradition. Lets sat she had a peters milkshake in her hand, and accidentally spilled that on the ground in that same spot, would it be the same outrage? Because the material that ended up on the ground is feces(which is in fact far better for the grass than milk shake) is what this is all about. That is what everyone is taking offence to.
But because the dog, went dog, and did it's business, there is all this outrage.