[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Your missing out on several points. I'll quote your lines and reply below:


Why would it have meant less? Because you can come up with a bunch of hypotheticals that can ruin a team in a 4 team playoff?

I'm saying the regular season will mean less. The iron bowl would have meant squat. And pointing out that people somehow think that a 4 team playoff will somehow create a legit Nat.Champ. It won't, it will be just be different. All we have right now is 16 years of BCS experience that people draw on to show the problems. All of them would hate to admit that most years it gets it right, very rarely do people at the end of the year say the Nat.Champ is illegitmate and that one team got screwed out of their big chance. Moon and Transplate probably could spend paragraphs complaining that Auburn deserves a shot over OSU, however probably don't have much to say about last years game, or the year before ... or most of the last 16 years. They and many, many others see one side of the coin. In the current system or the next one there are flaws, we won't be better off. The only difference will be a less meaningful regular season.

Actually it would have meant a lot still. If Auburn lost they would have not made the playoff. And believe it or not Conference championships will still hold meaning.

Those same hypotheticals apply to the last two weeks of the season. What if Winston gets injured in the first quarter of Duke and they lose? What if bad weather causes Ohio St to lose to Michigan St?

I agree, and in either the top 2 or top 4 scenario you will have people with 20/20 hindsight showing flaws in the system. Again my point is that a 4 team playoff won't create a more legitimate National Champion.


No one is going to be benching players because they are sure things. Losses are still going to knock you out especially if you get beat big.

Flat out untrue. In a top 8 scenario Auburn should bench starters because they are in either way. Alabama should sit starters in the Iron Bowl. OSU probably sits players vs Michigan because either way they just need to win the B10 to be in.

I think you are forgetting 2 key things. One there is no guarantee that Auburn is in if they lose, especially if they sit their starters and get demolished. You have a one loss Baylor team at number 9 today (who would gain more after a win over a ranked Texas team), it would be awful ballsy for Auburn to assume they would stay above 8 with a loss (coach would probably be fired if they didn't). 2nd you are basing the top 8 being chosen by BCS standings and not a committee. I would think that the committee would pick Baylor and South Carolina over Auburn if Auburn chose to bench it's players and lost. Even if they wouldn't, it would be absolutely the worst decision by a coach ever to test that hypothesis.

Getting a spot will be very difficult and hopefully if they move to 8 it will include Byes for top 2 seeds for teams to play for.

That's confusing. I don't understand how you have a top 8 system with byes. Possibly you mean a top 6 system? if so, sure. 6 is better than 8. 4 is better than 6, and 2 is better than 4 as far as I'm concerned.

You're right it would have to be six.

My main point is that what nobody thinks about is that what we have now is haters looking back at the last 16 years and pointing out things that didn't work well. Sure there's a few examples of that, but in reality there are way more examples of the current system nailing it. And creating a top 4 system won't fix a single thing. There will be times when a top 2 is all you need, and sometimes you need 3, maybe a 4th (very rarely 4 tho I think). So have you solved anything? No, just diluted the regular season.

Well the best way to do it is to create a conference championship playoff then? Keeps regular season meaning and crowns a true champion through a playoff? Obviously realignment would have to happen. I honestly am not hugely in favor of the new system, but I am not really in favor of the current system. Save having a flexible system I don't see how you do it.

On another note I think margin of victory needs to be added back in to the BCS. I saw a great break down of how NIU is ranked really low in the computer polls, but because the margin of victory calculation is removed before putting it in the BCS formula they jump into the top 15 of all the computer polls. I know running up the score is bad sportsmanship, but it also removes outliers of crappy teams scraping by other crappy teams. Obviously moot because of NIU loss but interesting nonetheless.

PS. forgot until I saw him on TV a couple weeks ago Josh Huff was a Willie Lyles boy too.