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Old 05-21-2013, 04:03 PM   #83
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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate View Post
*sigh*

This discussion is ridiculous.

Look... everyone can agree that:
- 1 underage bride is 1 too many
- not all Muslims follow their religious doctrine to the the letter; there are moderate Muslims

So far we've seen suggestions of two things:
- the number of child brides is not significant, so we should just let it slide in deference to respecting the Iranian's ability to sort this out within their culture
- the number of child brides is significant, so we should wipe their culture out

I'm not sure what "culture" entails. I'm hoping it doesn't mean to eliminate all Muslims. But I can't dismiss it since I have seen plenty of people on the Internet suggest just that.

In any case, I think we need to find something in between the two extremes. I'm not for dropping some nukes on Iran, nor am I for ignoring the human rights abuses within. There are other options between nukes and ignore and that's what we should be discussing here rather than running between the two high grounds of "defending children" and "protecting culture" and claiming your hill is higher than the other.
I don't think Italian culture died just because they gave up on The Inquisition.

These are ancient, long-lived cultures that nevertheless have some growing up to do. That's judgemental but, in the case of the topic at hand, its the truth of it.

Doesn't mean Islam has to die as a whole.

It would be something different and probably better. Again, judgemental but not out of line with bringing Islam forward into the modern world.

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