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Old 02-03-2012, 09:35 AM   #71
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What's there to say? My parents were beaten by Israeli soldiers when they invaded Lebanon.

They weren't married at that time, but the whole town was rounded up and beaten and had their homes used as mini-motels while fighting insurgents.
Not to sound like an unsympathetic jerk, but did Lebanon attack Israel or was it a militia based in Lebanon that was preparing to attack Israel? What forced Israel to invade, because as I recall they marched to Beirut and then left the country except for a buffer zone, they did not stick around to 'plunder' (they basically took out the major enemy of Israel which also happened to be the major enemy of Lebanon). Also, was there torture, or was there abuse? I really don't know the difference or even if it matters. I just know that Lebanon had either attacked Israel directly or 'allowed' militias to exist within their borders to attack Israel. I also think Syrian soldiers still exist in Southern Lebanon? Keep in mind that Lebanon was 'created' in a similar fashion to Israel with conflict coming from Syria.

If your parents are mad at abuse at the hands of Israeli soldiers, I don't blame them, but do they see what caused the soldiers to be there in the first place? Do people realize there was a civil war in Lebanon with hundreds of thousands of deaths? Yet the general animosity against Israel seems to be far greater than those responsible for basically destroying Lebanon. Israel removed massive PLO armies in their invasion, would Lebanon be better off if the armies still existed?

Lebanon has had it's chance to make peace with Israel, and have had a lot of problems due to aligning with it's neighbors versus joining the 'west'. How has their so called partnership with Iran and Syria done for them? What about Hezbollah? I think if Wikileaks has shown us anything, is that while people criticize Israel, the leaders in Lebanon were negotiating ways for Israel to invade to rid them of Hezbollah (which also means booting out Syria and Iran). This new invasion would be very similar to the invasion you refer to (I think).

Lebanon should be a shining light in the region, and perhaps they still are, but they could have been so much more. I can only imagine what a country they could have been had they made peace with Israel and liberated themselves of Syria. Many people left Lebanon mainly due to civil war, not Israel, let's try to keep that in mind.
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