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Old 12-31-2011, 12:06 AM   #681
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Originally Posted by Caged Great View Post
Even if Oliver is just average, he fills a desperate need for the Jays as a veteran presence in the pen and a LHP. Even if he's only this year's Dotel, it's all good. If we suck again, he'll find his way onto another team, and a prospect magically on to ours.

For a minimal investment, it's all good. It's not like he's making a ton.
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Originally Posted by Parallex View Post
A quick look at his stats show him giving up 17 runs last season (compared to 13 earned), 20 to 17 the year before, and zero additional unearned runs the year before. Hardly the situation you seem to be calling his norm. Looking at his peripherals he's probably due some some negative regression on BABIP but not much and he has a positive career and recent season GO/AO ratio (which in the AL East is a good thing to have).

Given his age it's just a matter of time before father time catches up with him so I'm a little concerned with that but ultimately he's just a part of the bullpen and by extension individually not very important. It's an alright signing provided that his dollars aren't the difference between getting a piece of true significance or not.

Speaking of really old guys I wonder if Moyer is going to pitch this year?
Remember and not just meant for you but Oliver was awful in the WS. That might have something to do with Maritmer and even my view if hom.
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