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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
How quick you are to defend someone who wants Israel destroyed...Mikey basically stated that he wouldn't mind if Israel got nuked.
We know where you stand Pyramid.
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riiiiiiighhht...
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Originally Posted by PyramidsofMars
The other side causes mass civilian casualties with its military actions (far more civilian casualties than the Israelis suffer), and continues to seek more and more land and settlements. I am aware that it is difficult for the Israelis to destroy militants because they, like the cowards they are, hole up in civilian houses in civilian areas, but that does not alter the suffering the Palestinians go through.
My father's family is mostly Arab-Israeli, but with a few Palestinians who couldn't get into Israel. None of these people hate Jews or want violence. All of them constantly feel oppressed and dislike their lives. Look, I'm aware of the sociopolitical history. I am not in any way suggesting the Israeli state has 'no right to exist' or whatever. But I am not blind, and in fact am personally affected through family by the state most Palestinians live in, even those not in refugee camps and such. You have to understand, no matter how much you argue the point that there was no Palestine, that the land was not owned by the people, in actual effect what you have is a people whose immediate ancestors in many cases were driven out of their homes, their land taken away, and their success and often education meaning absolutely nothing in the aftermath. Did the Arabs invite much of the aggression? Yes. The sad reality is that 'the Arabs' does not cover the innocent victims of the whole thing.
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that is the only post I have made on the conflict. In fact, you responded to it by saying you did NOT see the same anti-semitic drivel from me that you did from others, which is why I am surprised by your post.
Did you miss the part where I said that most of my (admittedly distant) relatives are Arab-Israelis who, um, would be destroyed if Israel was nuked?
Besides this, I have posted negatively about Islam several times, and am an atheist. If it makes you feel better, I am not even from a Muslim family (Eastern Orthodox).
Your attitude is exactly why I posted what I posted, it has less to do with anything mikey said than the fact that I am sick and tired of every single person who speaks against Israel (and mind, I have never even said that Israel doesn`t have a right to exist or anything of the sort) being either outright called an anti-semite, or having that insinuated about him or her, as you just did.
For what it`s worth, I`ve become more pro-Israel since reading Dershowitz`s book (The Case for Israel), but even he has criticized some of Israel`s policies. I am surprised he hasn`t been labeled a self-hating Jew...