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Originally Posted by EddyBeers
How many universal systems are there in the world in your opinion? Based on how you seem to define universal vs. two-tier, that would be an interesting list in my opinion, I would be surprised if you could find even 10 universal systems in the world. By your definition, Canada would have to be considered to be a country with a two-tiered system.
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Out of the countries that have two-tiered health care, some have 10% private, some have 50% private, etc, etc. It varies. By definition, it isn't universal.
Canada has a two-tiered system, but it is a bit different. I can't buy private insurance. Nor can I get private health care unless I go to the US. In some of the countries I listed, it is quite possible to get private health care depending on certain things. Some countries have privatized certain aspects of 'basic' health care. Things like stitches, blood tests, etc, etc is under the private plan. Others do it differently.
The point is that we have problems with our health care system. Obvious problems. And while I like the idea of providing everyone with basic health care, I think we need to adopt certain aspects of the two-tiered system to not only keep business here in Canada, but to reduce our waiting lists.
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What your stats clearly indicate is that private health systems are the worst systems in the world.
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And more shrill hysteria.
Nobody ever said private health care was awesome or perfect or that it worked better than two-tiered or universal.
There are countries with private health care that function, and there are countries with two-tiered health care that function, as well as a universal system. We should be looking at all 3 systems and using the best from each to implement the best system we CAN.