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Old 01-08-2009, 06:28 PM   #212
Nage Waza
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Dude... incorrect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterlife#Judaism

There are most certainly some peopel on the Israeli side motivated by religious fanaticism. The government and nation is clearly more secular than Hamas, but there are most certainly some people who believe the entirety of the land is promissed to them.
LOL, where do you come up with this stuff? Sure, a group of jews, the Orthodox, who have a pretty good lobby may believe in afterlife, but it is not what you are thinking it is. Your Wiki link does not prove what you think it proves. Jews do not get an afterlife, although their old books talk about where a 'soul' goes after they die, and how the messiah will resurrect them. Israeli soldiers, who are conservative or Reform (probably 65% with the rest non believers) certainly don't think they are saving themselves for a meeting in heaven. This is one of the major differences between the religion and the other major religions, what happens to them after they die. Jews cannot simply take Christ in their life and all is forgiven, it does not work that way.

The Wiki link simply talks about what the books say, written thousands of years ago (debateable). The key thing is that the jews have been around a long time, and issues of resurections, miracles, afterlife, intervention etc. are things of the past.

And absolutely, the jews think the land was promised to them, as the bible is pretty much based on this offer. But they also have no problem sharing the land, as they CURRENTLY clearly demonstrate. There are churches, mosques, synagogues all over the place. Even new religions can build whatever they want pretty much anywhere. How many synagogues in Jordan? Or Iran? How about Russia? Where did the Jews go?

There is certainly religous fanatacism in Israel, but I don't think that is the current issue, which is rockets being fired into Israel. Anyone can bring up the assorted internal issues Israel has, but what do they have to do with missles being luanched by Hamsa that are bankrolled by Iran???
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