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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Would you say the suicide bombers are handpicked from a selection of happy, healthy, educated citizens? Or are these people unhappy, unhealthy, and uneducated people, aka "desperate".
I'm not going to get into why these people might be desperate, or who is to be blamed for this desperation, but they are clearly desperate.
Anyway, you make a lot of definitive statements about this whole mess. You seem very confident that you know what you are saying is true and whoever might have a different interpretation is either completely wrong or possibly lying, so I have a question for you.
Would it be fair to say that you believe Israel is completely without fault in this entire catastrophe, and the enemies of Israel are completely guilty? Or can blame be assigned to both sides?
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The suicide bombers are selected based on how the terrorist org thinks they will respond to the brainwashing. Does the average person there believe that their current life is a preperation for the afterlife? If they do, then perhaps they are pulled aside for more advanced so called religous studies. Keep in mind their schools are filled with absolutely vile and racist schooling. A suicde bombing is not a last minute act of desperation, it happens after a lot of work from a cult like operation, where the bomber is seperated from family. There is much research on this, you can read many books on the subject. This is not passive resistance like in Tibet...And until 2nd intefadah, the lives of the Palestinians was much better than many of the surrounding countries. The recent push by radical Islam within Hamas certainly did not improve things, that is for sure.
You can have any interpretation you want, this current situation is caused by rockets fired from Hamas terrorists from civilian population areas. PERIOD. You can add all the history you want, you can deny anything you want, you can tell as much truth as you want, but this issue is caused by terrorists. Israel left the Gaza a long time ago, and Hamas took control. As you can see now, they are a bad group. Do you see Israel invading the West Bank? Hamas is under control in the gaza, and are not able to launch rockets from the West Bank (under control from other Palestinians). The West Bank citizens are watching the entire episode and going to sleep at night not worried of being attacked.
If I call someone a liar, it is for one reason: They are spreading lies. Basically, when someone puts forth a statement that is not true I call it. Especially in this issue: We are talking about a terrorst group. The biggest issue I have is that many people only post on the subject when Israel does something. I don't see the posts when Hamas is launching rockets, I don't see the posts when Canadian soldiers are killed, I don't see the posts when Syrian or Iranian Hezbollah terrorists are committing crimes, people come out of the woodwork when Israel defends itself.
Do I think Israel is at fault? Well for sure they have done some things wrong, but they are in a very tough position. The majority of the world condems them when they respond but are silent when terrorists attack. Why are they silent? Often because they are afraid of getting into the spotlight of Islamic rioters or things of that nature. Believe it or not, Israel has some serious allies in the region, countries that are fighting the same enemy, these countries include Turkey, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and some others. These countries are all silent partners and work with Israel quietly, otherwise they might face the wrath of militants.
Israel has done some things wrong, as many countries have. Could they have avoided the current conflict? Well they could have sat there under fire for a while. Where would that get them? Keep in mind there are three factions in this: Israel, the Palestinians and Hamas. It is actually hard to find out what the Palestinians truly want, as they are under complete militant rule. Say the wrong thing, goodbye. The Gaza should be a part of Egypt, but Egypt basically wanted nothing to do with the area. The West Bank is largely a result of civil war in Jordan. The fact is Israel exists and the Palestinians won't if they continue siding with groups like Hamas. I am not sure what will become of them, possibly a ward of the UN. Some of the accusations against Israel in this thread border on the insane. For example, there have been accusations of genocide, justification of terrorism, confusing the act of terrorism to the act of a 'desperate' person, unfair use of military might, bombing Gaza for basically no reason at all, concluding the Hamas missle attacks as being a mere nuisance etc. I am only defening against comments like that and defending the current situation has basic terrorism commited by Hamas with the partial hopes of as many innocent Palestinian deaths as possible to drum up sympathy around the world.
I don't think you are a liar, I think what you claimed about desperation caused rocket fire to be a lie, not created by you, but by many others to drum up support.