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Originally Posted by jammies
Israel is justified no matter what it does. They can go right ahead and kill hundreds of civilians with bombs because that is "unfortunate collateral damage".
Never mind that as recently as 2006 the Israelis tried the same tactics against Hezbollah in Lebanon as they are trying now in the Gaza, and failed miserably
No, the only thing that matters is that Israel goes to war every few years and kills craploads of Arabs, because after 60 years of trying, victory must surely be just around the corner!
What truly amazes me is that the propaganda of the Arabs is seen rightly for what it is - insincere justification of atrocities
The right to self-defence must be proportionate
it's somehow OK for Israel to hold onto occupied land for decades on end, to blow up bridges and buildings that have no military value whatsoever, and to create massive ghettoes for their enemies with no industry, no arable land, no water, and walls all around and dividing them.
they are successful because conditions are so poor that death seems preferable to life.
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So you clearly are on the side of Hamas, first you denied it, now you boast it. I will break down your points, which I think are out to lunch:
1 You said Israel kills hundreds of civilians. Israel would not kill any had their enemy not been launching missles and planning attacks from schools, hospitals or houses.
2 You said Israel tried the same tactics against Hezbollah and failed miserably. What tactics? Bombing the enemy that was hiding amongst the innocent? How did this fail? I currently don't see Hezbollah launching targets, and I know Lebanon is more than happy to have Israelis killing their enemy rather than using their own soldiers. Hezbollah is an enemy to the world.
3 You said Israeli goes to war every few years to kill Arabs. While that might seem true based on who Israel's enemies are, I wonder how many Arabs are killed by Arabs each year around the world. But you wouldn't know, since you are too busy worrying about what the Jews are doing.
4 You said that I think all items that support Hamas are insincere justification of atrocities. Actually, I think anyone who supports hamas, such as yourself, is actually sincere. Your hatred is within you. I often wonder why people move across the world to countries like Canada, US and elsewhere, and from nations with the same source of rules that Hamas would rule with if given the chance, then people that do live here somehow support Hamas???
5 You said that The right to self-defence must be proportionate. So you make the rules now? Israel should randomly launch missles into the Gaza strip, eye for an eye style? Israel should blow up buses? Israel should not allow their women to read, write, go to school or have rights? Israel should teach their children to hate? Israel should teach their population to not plant trees, not take care of the earth, not to have rights to prey to whatever they want, since this is all what Hamas does? The only reason there is so much death on the Hamas side is they belong to a cult of death, where they don't care about their earthly life and only care about their afterlife. Jews on the other hand don't get a second life, this one counts so they protect it.
6 You said that it's somehow OK for Israel to hold onto occupied land for decades. Well hate to to burst your bubble, Israel did not walk into wallmart and buy the occupied land, this was the hand they were dealt. And they would walk away from it for a second if they could do it without a bombardment of terrorst attacks. Simple as that.
The bottom line is that Hamas was launching rockets and Israel had enough of them. Why was Hamas launching them? Because they are on the payroll of Iran and wackos like that. This has nothing to do with the Palestinian people. And until people like you condemn the rockets, and not just appear when Israel responds, I will conclude that you are on the side of Hamas, a terrible organization equal with the clan or WW2 era Germans (not sure if I can use certain words in here).