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Originally Posted by PIMking
Fighting in the middle east? No way! Never!
I am not agianst the isrealies but how would you feel if your country was just taken over by people and you had nothing to say for it?
really what happend if some native tribe from your part of canada had land just given to them by another country and that wasnt your country anymore? would you fight for it? I would. I understand that was the jewish homeland but they just moved in kicked out the palastinians (sp) and you wouldnt think there would be fighting?
One of two things that need to happen. Treaty which will never happen or if it does peace wont last long.
or the Isrealies need to eliminate the enemy. massive military campaign and get rid of them for good.
its a bad situation. and I cant belive that I even think about supporting the damn terrorists.
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I can respond to this point by point:
Since when did their country get taken over? Absolutely the Brits kinda messed things up, but to be honest, it improved things. So sure, it would suck to be taken over as you put it, but the group (Jews) that took it over absolutely took a desert and turned it into schools, hospitals, human rights, etc. There was a small exodus of people at one point, but they were not chased out, terrorized out or anything. I think there was a battle in a town or two and people did leave, but those that stayed kept their homes, jobs etc. The local population that did leave left because they were getting out of the way of a massive multination Arab invasion. Israel did not let them back in. The majority of those that are stuck in the territories? Many are the result of civil war in surrounding nations. Israel seems like a good place to go, so here we are.
You claim the Palestinians were kicked out? That is a massive lie, but I won't call you a liar - the loonies that seem to side with Hamas validate have invented a false history of the region and I realize many people are confused about the facts. Israel did not become a nation and start kicking people out (like I said already, it happened in a few localized scenarios).
Israel wants an end to violence, but will not and won't ever not respond to a barrage of rockets.
The issue of Palestinians fighting back is ridiculous, Israel is fighting a terrorist group, not the population itself. If you want to discuss this, keep that aspect in mind. Hamas is not representing the people, they have one mandate, kill Jews period. If the IDF can get rid of Hamas, then they can work with the Palestinian people.
I would also like to bring up that Arabs that live in Israel have more rights and freedoms than they do in whatever country they might have come from. The battle we are witnessing is one where dictators use Israel as a scapegoat for all their local problems, why the citizens are so poor and their dictator is so rich - blame Israel. Their taught from a very young age that the jews are terrible people. Do you think a Jew lives in Iran or Iraq or other similar countries? Not a chance, they were kicked out or killed years ago.
I cannot understand how someone in Canada can support a terrorist group (like you said you might). Let's say Jews left Israel - the first thing that would happen is the schools, hospitals and several thousand years of human history would be destroyed - just like pretty much every other Muslim nation. Then the crops and technology would be destroyed. And the citizens who built up the nation that are responsible for many advances to humanity would be gone, and you here in Canada would support that? Makes no sense to me. Rather pathetic actually.