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Originally Posted by cyclone3483
He did act against God's will. In the gospels of Mark and Matthew, Satan tempted Jesus in the desert, including Matthew 4 which chronicles Satan's attempt to get Jesus to worship him instead of God. In the 10th verse, Jesus says "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' " Satan was not worshipping God and was inciting others not to serve God, both clearly against God's will.
Moreso, in Luke 10, Jesus said, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you." The Lord's enemy is clearly Satan in this context and he was no longer a member of heaven's citizenry.
Please, if you are going to say something is in the Bible, you should provide the chapter so people can verify for themselves. Otherwise, it should be considered as potentially a lie or a misinterpretation.
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I think Octothorp was saying that in the Old Testament, Satan never acted without God saying okay. That is an accurate statement -- in the Old Testament stories, Satan was always was God's servant, and always acted in accordance with what God said.
In New Testament times, Satan was seen as a force counter to God, you're right. That reflects that by the time the New Testament was written, attitudes and beliefs about Satan had changed significantly, most likely as a result of foreign influences.