[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Good one, Ok I Get It! You really fixed my post well, while not actually contributing anything yourself. Your mindless patriotism is how some of these wars started. Look at the two World Wars. If you think Great Britains' (and vicariously, Canada's) motives were altruistic in either war you need to give your head a shake.

In World War II Canada (and we did enter the war separate from Great Britain by the way) was essentially fighting against what we can now recognize in hindsight as a regime which was founded on ideals of hatred and one which ultimately committed atrocities so heinous that words can not do them any justice. How you can argue that we didn't do a greater good is beyond me and more a failing of our educational system and I would suspect your parents than anything else.

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

I wont even talk about WWI because our entry into that war is so ridiculous it boggles the mind (mostly due to a petty uncle-nephew rivalry, and a naval arms race), but Britain's ness afterwards was truly remarkable and directly led to World War 2.

Yes, World War I was a giant cluster in which Canada as a nation was forged out of battle on a foreign land. World War II and a whole swack of other conflicts has its roots in the Treaty of Versailles, on that you are correct... That being said World War I was much more complicated than a simple rivalry as you make it out to be.

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

In that conflict we declared war on Germany not because Hitler was killing Jews, but because he invaded Poland. We actually turned boat loads of Jews away from our shores, and what do you think happened to them? Now in hindsight maybe we were on the slightly less evil side, but if you look at the actions of our allies its very debatable. Just wikipedia "war rape" and find out how many rapes were commited by our friends in 1945. And yeah, Canadians liberated Holland, but only because America and Great Britain were to busy carpet bombing every major city in Germany.

Ok... Anti-semetic attitudes were common at the time and I would argue that they still are common within large segments of the population. That being said I highly doubt that anyone had any inkling of an idea as to what would happen to the Jews when they returned to mainland Europe. The SS St. Louis is one of the black marks on our nations, as well as many others, history. However to even compare that to the systemic destruction of the Jews is completely ridiculious and shows your lack of cognitive abilities.

War Rape took place, of course it did, with any group of people you are guarenteed to find one that isn't a great person or who is a bad person and this was especially common in the Russian and German armies in the European Front. That being said because there is someone who you work with who you find out is guilty of a crime... does that tarnish you as a person as well? Does that throw all of your accomplishments into disrepute.

Bombing of German cities took place, of course it did in large part in retaliation for the bombing against British cities, but also to drive the German population who had been subject to propaganda for decades and who believed in the Nazi cause into submission.

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Now maybe you people have bought ino the propaganda, but I haven't. The days of the nation-sate are ending and people 200 years from now will laugh at us for sending troops to their death in wars thousands of miles away, in the name of king and country, and then wearing little flowers to "remember the dead". If it was so crappy fighting Germany then why did they volunteer?

I doubt that. I would rather argue that in 200 years their sacrifices will still be admired by the vast majority of the citizens of a country while you will be long forgotten. What these men accomplished is bigger than anything any of us will ever accomplish. They changed the face of history and did so for the better, of that there should be no doubt.

I would like to see a veteran kick you square in the face by the way.

Don't bother responding to this post because you and your "opinions" are on my ignore list.