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Originally Posted by Boblobla
I find wrestling a little boring tbqh but I will probably watch some of it. I don't know what backyard brawl you are watching but MMA is not a bareknuckle sport. If you don't understand BJJ or Muay Thai or Judo or Wrestling that is fine but that doesn't give you the right to say there is no skill involved.
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I'm not a huge fan of MMA, but your right, its unfair to call the MMA a bare knuckle brawl, the really good fighters at the top are exceptionally bright in terms of understanding the game. The problem right now is with the inexperienced guys that have to really learn as they go.
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Originally Posted by Boblobla
I really don't understand your second paragraph. Are you saying that there is no tough guys off the street who got into boxing? Did you watch 'The Contender'? There are people in the NHL who went undrafted, does that mean they shouldn't be there? There are different skill sets within an organization, just because everyone doesn't have BJJ black belt or is a golden gloves boxer doesn't make them less of a competitor.
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Disagree and agree with this, its pretty rare that you see a boxer that is basically a tough guy suceeding in that sport. There is a real science to boxing that doesn't exist in any other sport. Watch some of the exceptional boxers out there, not the tomato cans in the heavyweigh division, they combine footwork and hand work and body work freakishly better then anyone else. Its rare that you see a boxer that takes a beating to land a punch anymore, but if you watch punch counts vs punch landed counts you gain an understanding of how good boxers defend.
MMA and specifically UFC has done a good job of removing the freak factor that plagued them in the beginning when they did have a lot of bar brawlers and punks competing. Watch the first UFC tourney with the fat guy that invented his own martial art, or Tank Abbot or others. Boxing has those guys but they don't raise above the club level.
As far as the contender goes, those fighters didn't come off of the street, they were guys with years of training and professional records behind them. UFC until recently didn't have those requirements.
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Originally Posted by Boblobla
Kimbo Slice is a joke. I am not sitting here defending him. I am defending a sport that I have grown to love over the last 4 or 5 years. That fight was garbage and he should have lost in the second round. He is not fit to headline an event, any event. Gary Shaw (who incidently has a boxing promotion background) took a bodyguard who is struggling to get money to raise his family and lined his pockets. It is BS. Maybe in 2 or 3 years after a lot of cardio and some more time with Randy Couture and Bas Ruuten he might be a legit heavyweight.
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Kimbo Slice is one of those characters that UFC fought really hard to filter out, and now after two fights he's main eventing on a competitors show, and believe me, UFC probably fuming about it because it gives the whole sport a bad name. In boxing a guy like this would loose a couple of fights, be dropped from the ratings and we'd never see him again. Kimbo Slice did more harm to MMA by winning that fight then good.