09-04-2008, 12:03 PM
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Holy. Dude was convicted of sexual assault, robbery and uttering threats and served his entire sentence. He was refused parole. That doesn't happen often.
Michael Andrew Scott, 35, finished his 121/2-year sentence in federal prison Wednesday. He was serving time for three counts of sexual assault, two counts of robbery and two counts of uttering threats to cause death or harm.
Scott served his entire sentence because the National Parole Board refused to grant him parole.
"The board is satisfied that, if released, you are likely to commit an offence causing the death of or serious harm to another person before the expiration of the sentence you are now serving," the parole board said in its decision from Scott's detention review hearing on July 16, 2007.
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09-04-2008, 12:08 PM
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Aren't people like him the reason they have a dangerous offender tag they can put on people to keep them locked up. I know he served his time but if the whole point of prision is to rehibilitate and from the sounds of it that clearly didn't happen hear, why let him back into society.
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09-04-2008, 12:10 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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I read about this in Metro this morning. I didn't catch the part then that he was "likely to kill" but caught that he was a high risk to reoffend for sexual assault.
Either way, too bad our justice system allows someone who has served his time but hasn't been rehabilitated out of prison. They need changes in our justice laws to add terms like XX years in prison but release subject to satisfatory passing of psychological assessments. If they don't pass then they aren't allowed out even though they served their time. If they do, they are released and hopefully get back on track and contribute to society. Some people just cannot be rehabilited and as far as I am concerned can rot in jail for the rest of their life.
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09-04-2008, 12:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Toledo OH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
Aren't people like him the reason they have a dangerous offender tag they can put on people to keep them locked up. I know he served his time but if the whole point of prision is to rehibilitate and from the sounds of it that clearly didn't happen hear, why let him back into society.
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Actually the dangerous offender tag is one that's political in nature used to keep people in prison who otherwise, if released from prison, would draw attention to the fact that our prison sentances are a complete joke. As long as there's a provision to keep the Bernados and Olsens locked away indefinately average Canadians are totally oblivious to the vast number of murderers and rapists that are set free on a regular basis to live amongst them after serving embarassingly short sentances.
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09-04-2008, 12:16 PM
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Franchise Player
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this isn't PC, but I think it is unfortunate that this rotting pustule wasnt killed in prison
I can't believe this guy committed at least 7 crimes and only got 12.5 years
Last edited by Canada 02; 09-04-2008 at 12:20 PM.
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09-04-2008, 12:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
Aren't people like him the reason they have a dangerous offender tag they can put on people to keep them locked up. I know he served his time but if the whole point of prision is to rehibilitate and from the sounds of it that clearly didn't happen hear, why let him back into society.
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No kidding! I cannot fathom why this guy wouldn't have been labelled a dangerous offender. Where do the rights of the public to be safe in their communities matter in this case?? It's appalling.
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09-04-2008, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Yeah, I'm a big believer that rehabilitation needs to be the primary goal of our justice system, but there's not much you can do with someone like this except keep them in prison. Especially for something like sex crimes where the behaviour is often linked to some serious and sometimes untreatable psychological conditions, there needs to be longer sentencing and then leave it to the parole system to determine if someone is making sufficient progress to warrant an early parole.
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09-04-2008, 12:22 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02
this isn't PC, but I think it is unfortunate that this rotting pustule wasnt killed in prison
I can't believe this guy committed at least 7 crimes and only got 12.5 years
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The sad thing is that after surviving 12.5 years in prison, he is likely worse off and more violent than before. You don't survive that long in prison without being a badass.
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The board also wrote that Scott, who has admitted sexually assaulting family members as well as strangers, has "demonstrated limited victim remorse or empathy."
"Your sexually impulsive nature generally involves contact with children and sexually exposing yourself," the board wrote, describing him as a sexual sadist, exhibitionist and pedophile.
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Barf.
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Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 09-04-2008 at 12:25 PM.
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09-04-2008, 12:23 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Hopefully for the publics sake, he doesn't strike again or finds a way back into jail shortly. I don't have much hope that this clown can function normally in society based on the article.
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09-04-2008, 12:24 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
The sad thing is that after surviving 12.5 years in prison, he is likely worse off and more violent than before. You don't survive that long in prison without being a badass.
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Yeah, definitely shows that he has no remorse for his crimes and any respect for the victims.
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09-04-2008, 12:26 PM
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so what are the police allowed to do beyond issueing a public warning? Can they keep him under some form of surveilance? does he wear an ankle bracelet to keep them informed of his wearabouts?
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09-04-2008, 12:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper24
Yeah, definitely shows that he has no remorse for his crimes and any respect for the victims.
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How exactly does getting out of prison show he has no remourse? Seems to me surviving prison has no bearing on how remourseful you are.
That being said, I think that this guy really does have no remourse, but surviving prison really shows nothing about that.
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09-04-2008, 12:36 PM
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Had an idea!
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Uh, why release him if there is a chance he'll kill again?
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09-04-2008, 12:58 PM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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It creeps me out that the general opinion is that he'll kill somebody and he hasn't even killed anybody up to this point. That says to me that a sexual predator was brought into a prison system and is being released in an even worse state of mind than when he arrived.
For the most part I'm fairly left-leaning, but if this guy were to be killed tomorrow I wouldn't be able to feel anything beyond relief.
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09-04-2008, 01:00 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Somebody just off the guy. I'm sick of reading, hearing, and talking about people that deserve death.
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09-04-2008, 01:02 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: In the land of high expectations...
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Yet another reason to feel safe in the big city.....lord I hope the cops can keep an eye on him and that instead of ruining more lives they can put him back behind bars soon.
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09-04-2008, 01:02 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Yikes, from the same article:
This is the second time in a week that a dangerous offender who has served his entire sentence has been released into Calgary. Convicted sex offender Gregory Venn, 45, served eight years and is now under strict court-imposed conditions, including a curfew...
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09-04-2008, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Uh, why release him if there is a chance he'll kill again?
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Because people have rights?
Your statement is incredibly offensive.
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09-04-2008, 01:44 PM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanisleflamesfan
Yikes, from the same article:
This is the second time in a week that a dangerous offender who has served his entire sentence has been released into Calgary. Convicted sex offender Gregory Venn, 45, served eight years and is now under strict court-imposed conditions, including a curfew...
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That guy looks like that "Buffalo Bill" guy from Silence of the lambs. Freaks me out even more.
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